Newly certified diver OOA at Gilboa

[The Chairman]

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[AbyssalPlains]

cesa isn't taught with the reg out? mine was, so i thought they all were. hmm.

In SSI standards, CESA is taught with the reg in, and the air turned ON. Go figure (and laugh) at that....

I keep hearing that SSI has such a good reputation, but the more I learn about PADI, and looking back on my own cert under CMAS, I am left thinking that SSI has a good reputation for no reason.

 

[24940]

In SSI standards, CESA is taught with the reg in, and the air turned ON. Go figure (and laugh) at that....

Care to cite that standard?

 

[AbyssalPlains]

Come on, fisherdvm, don't let a little heat in the discussion discourage you from debating. I've found many of your posts useful and would hate to see you go. I sent you a PM just now.

 

[AbyssalPlains]

Care to cite that standard?

Don't have the standards with me right now, but I can look it up. Frankly, I don't care if it's the standard, but it is the way it is done at my LDS. Perhaps they violate the standards, in which case I will rephrase my statement and adjust it to include that fact. In that case, though, I feel that SSI may not enforce their standards enough. My observation is just one of many, though. Other examples include learning from a PADI instructor recently that the PADI wreck specialty includes four dives and wreck penetration, whereas SSI includes only two dives and no penetration. This I know for a fact as I have studied the SSI wreck specialty written materials and taken the specialty.

 

[24940]

Don't have the standards with me right now, but I can look it up.

Here you go.....
http://www.divessi.com/downloads

Frankly, I don't care if it's the standard, but it is the way it is done at my LDS.

Your face is on fire.

 

[The Chairman]

Other examples include learning from a PADI instructor recently that the PADI wreck specialty includes four dives and wreck penetration, whereas SSI includes only two dives and no penetration. This I know for a fact as I have studied the SSI wreck specialty written materials and taken the specialty.

These might be two completely different specialties. PADI also has a "Wreck Survey" specialty that has only two dives and no penetration. I always instruct those who want to penetrate wrecks to become full cave certified. Same skill set with a slightly different environment.

 

[diver 85]

Another diver that passed the 'test' and should have failed???........sounds like stupidity or VERY poor instruction, take your pick(?or both??)........btw, glad eveything turned out OK.........

 

[The Chairman]

I have split off the "other" discussion about forum behavior. You can find it here: http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/si...r-split-newly-certified-diver-ooa-gilboa.html

 

[Sideband]

Actually, the instructor I saw with 2 students was NAUI. I think someone summed it up best, if one likes to help out in a class, get a DM certificate. Not so that you have the skills... but so you can get liability insurance.

An esteemed member of SB once said, the reason why she does not want to do a DM course, is that her instructor said "if you want to assist, you can assist me any time." We forget the legal consequences of our help in a class.

NAUI has a Teaching Assistant cert. that only requires Rescue and a little bit of other work. Card holders ARE covered by the instructor's insurance.