Baani Explorer - Maldives

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thanks all of you for posting information regarding this liveaboard. We need reports like this in order to make informed choices on diving. I think everyone needs to think seriously about all factors involved with a liveaboard, not just how great the diving looks. Safety and ability to contact the management, what the safety regulations are for the country who OWNs the boat, etc. are all just as important as the diving.

I am a big proponent of liveaboard diving, BUT I heard some horror stories of complete boat catastrophes from people we know. I cannot imagine being on a boat which catches fire (happened to a group from our LDS about 10+ years ago) or like in these reports regarding fumes so bad people couldn't sleep, serious food poisoning concerns, missed dives from broken or missing equipment, etc.

For these reasons, I depend on this board, recomendations from other divers locally, and travel agency websites (like caradonna and ultimate dive travel and a few others). Companies like Caradonna and Ultimate dive travel can't afford to lose customers by sending them on second-rate or unsafe liveaboards. It just isn't good business. I use them as a second opinion when doing my research for a trip. This may be the fact I have never heard of the Baani Maldives.

Just my 2 cents.
robin:D
 
Robin you talk about safety, One thing we never mentioned about Baani:

Baani Explorer has ENOS System on board. And on nearly every dive, we had this system with us. Not on first dive, because we first checked our equipment and then get the introduction in this system and not on first dive after the lost of the dhoni, because we had again to check our equipment.

And its a good feeling to have this system with you!
Every Buddy-Team has 1 Transmitter.


And: Baani Explorer is in the catalogue of nearly every famous travel agency in europe (Germany):
Orca, Tauchertraum, Schöner Tauchen, Tauchreisen Roscher, Aqua Active, SAM Reisen
... and so on. This is no guarantee.
 
Fundive,

Incredible, I could have been reading my own report.....

Thanks for the link to the report posted by Brian Verbonac. It is almost a carbon copy of all the problems we faced during our week on the Baani Explorer and I can still hear Hussen claim, "well nobody else has complained" ...!

Gundi, hope you have read this report along with my own post.....you get even more thumbs down from me. Not once have you tried to suggest improvemnts to your pitiful operation, all your efforts being directed at trying to prove people are making false claims.

Shame on you......
mooner.gif
 
I was in the group of divers on the Baani Explorer for a two week safari from January 20 to February 3....I have included my trip report that seems almost a duplication....but....believe me....this was a trip from hell....

Liveaboard Diving Trip Report

Maldives-Baani Explorer-January 20/February 2-2008

We left Toronto on January 16 and arrived in Male, Maldives via New York and Dubai during the early morning hours of January 18. Our intent was to spend a couple of days in Male getting used to the ten hour time difference prior to boarding the Baani on Sunday, January 20. The days were spent walking around, shopping and just being lazy on the small Island of Male.

The dhoni picked us up at the main jetty at 8:00AM on Sunday and we then made our way to the airport for another passenger before getting to the boat at around 10:00AM. The first order of business was getting unpacked, putting gear in a plastic container and waiting for the dhoni to return with additional passengers. We then put our gear on the dhoni and set everything up ready for diving.

We had read a lot of reports on the Baani Explorer prior to making arrangements for our trip and we were expecting exceptionally good service and diving after traveling nearly half way around the world…but…this was not to be….My report from this point on will be in two parts…..the good and the bad…I’ll do the good first….

The Good

There were a few aspects of the trip that turned out to be satisfactory…All fills were at or above 3000 PSI, we had one of the two larger suites that had a lot of room…AC worked OK…but beds were harder than plywood and very uncomfortable. Room was cleaned daily, sheets changed once and towels replaced when requested. Food was tasty even though a bit repetitious. The staff including the Dive Masters, cooks, waiters, dhoni helpers, cleaners et all went out of their way to be helpful and assisted in any way they could….a very good job. We had an open bar one evening for a couple of hours.

The Bad

This part of the report will constitute the bulk of the reporting…we had more problems on this trip than all of our previous liveaboard experiences…it may seem lengthy and nit-picking but to experience this trip was not all eat, sleep, dive and fun. One problem fed off another. There was a decided lack of information sharing between Baani management and paying customers….surprises, and not good surprises, were the norm.

We booked about a year in advance to be able to secure spots on the two week safari that offered diving at remote Atolls away from Male with no return to Male during the trip. Well what a shock to find that on the morning of Friday of the first week….we’re back in Male…we got two one week trips back to back….not the promised two week trip. This was after getting a summary from Hussen [cruise director] on Thursday evening explaining that we were headed for the remote area on Friday…no logical explanation provided as to why we ended up back in Male !!



All diving is done from the dhoni- no camera table available, no charge station or rinse tanks on dhoni for cameras or equipment. The mother ship [Baani Explorer] was the same….no facilities for photographers…one large rinse tank at back of boat that was used for washing out wet suits, fins, masks
We had maintenance problems with the compressor on the dhoni that necessitated trips by the dhoni to Male to secure repairs…dhoni went to Male once and repairs not completed.. Went a second time and on return trip to the Baani…the dhoni ran aground…partially sunk and most divers lost equipment. During the down time…we missed five dives each but were promised that additional dives would be scheduled during the second week to make up for the missed dives…this never happened. Not only did we miss dives but there was no attempt what-so-ever by either Hussen or Gundi [ owner-also on board during trip] to acknowledge or attempt to rectify the problem of missed dives or change of itinerary…as a matter of fact…there was heated debate with Hussen after he tried to convince people that no dives were missed and Baani was following prescribed routing…the memorable statement was…”we didn’t go into Male at the end of the first week-we went by Male”…UNBELIEVABLE!!

With the sinking of the dhoni and lost equipment, Gundi offered to pay for lost items… when we explained what was missing…a neoprene vest[$80], two masks[$125] and some anti-fog for the masks[$20]…we were questioned and requested to provide a revised quote on the vest that would represent a depreciated value, questioned on the difference in the exchange rate between Canadian and US dollars and asked if the two anti-fog bottles were full…the actual statement went something like…”well, those anti-fog were not full now….were they!!”….we were totally floored by the questions in light of the fact that, according to Hussen, Gundi had insurance on all of this….imagine…trying to make money on accidents. There was a decided lack of ethics shown during this discussion.

We had sixteen people on the boat of which five were non-paying family members..leaving eleven paying customers. Of the eleven, one was a non-diver…leaving ten divers. By the end of the trip, Baani management had been able to completely alienate and anger seven of the ten…a hard task to accomplish even if you had to intentionally do this.

Of sixteen people, outside of the crew, on board…during the two week period, nine were sick!!! They all suffered some or part of symptoms including nausea, diarrhea, headache and upset stomach. This was too high of a percentage to be a coincidence!! The dhoni tied up to the side of the Baani that exhausted the fumes from the generator…a quick Google search identifies this layout as an extremely dangerous configuration for carbon monoxide gasses. Several evenings we had to leave the rear of the boat sitting area…you could see and smell the exhaust rising from the back of the boat. A recommended CO2 detector is missing from the Baani.

The websites shows pictures and describes the Jacuzzi on the front deck. We found the reality to be that it was a saltwater Jacuzzi with no heat. It had water in it for one day only.

An email was sent to Baani management in Austria outlining all of our concerns with excerpts from their website detailing the two week trip, number of dives, location of route, no return to Male etc etc. Gundi sent me an email offering compensation of $25.[total amount] Even this princly sum, which is nothing more than an insult, has never been sent to us.

On the boat, Hussen advised everyone not too worry because insurance would cover everything but in Gundi’s email, she states she had no insurance. Who to believe?? Someone lied!

To sum up….a difficult situation is a test of character and an opportunity to exhibit moral ethics. The Baani management failed the test. While looking after mitigating their own losses, they cut corners when it came to their paying guests. Would we go back to the Maldives? Probably. Would we go on a safari from Maldive Liveaboards on any of their four boats? NOT ON YOUR LIFE Not even if it was a free trip Give this operator the widest possible berth and spend your money anywhere else !!! Avoid at any cost !!

Brian Verbonac…. Verbonac@sympatico.ca
 
Just a quick add on...there seems to be a decided lack of reply from Gundi addressing the issues raised other then attempting to defend a second rate operation...well...after all the attempts made to get a reasoned reply from Gundi..and that included sending her a copy of my report before it was submitted to any board or magazine...the following is the exact wording of Gundi's reply to me....

"Are you something like insurance agent? Working in pension by contracting other divers on board? Trying to finance your diving vacations by black mailing? Does it work?"

That is the exact way Gundi summed up our email's...she accuses me of trying to blackmail her...

As stated earlier...a second rate outfit run by people without ethics,empathy or morals.
 
Brian (Canada),

Thanks for taking the time to visit Scuba Board and posting a very comprehensive blow by blow account of your 2 weeks in Hell. Also thanks for supporting all the claims our group made just one week later.

Unplanned problems do occur on holidays of this nature, but it's the reaction of Gundi and Hussen that I will never understand. Just one week after your nightmare she's telling us that she suffered sleepless nights, nothing like this has ever happened before, we are the first complainants that she has had, etc. etc...not once offering any positive remarks such as "we have replaced the compressor", "we have serviced the AC units in the bedrooms", "we have a separate freezer for raw meat and fish", "we have repaired the water making equipment", water heaters are working and will provide hot water every day not only some days"....and so the list goes on.

I wish there was more we could do with unscrupulous operators to get them to compensate holiday makers when things go badly wrong. Hopefully the fact that more than 1500 people have visited this thread should spread the word. I can't imagine how much we would have lost had the Dhoni gone down with our equipment on board....titanium regs, Suunto computers, etc. etc.

I still get upset when I read her reply to my first post, what a brass neck. I am totally gob smacked by her blackmailing accusations…! Then again nothing about her should surprise me by now.

Hope your next live-aboard goes much better.....I have tried Manthiri in the Maldives and can thoroughly recommend her.....Moosa is an avid photographer and food and accommodation great, camera tables, good wash tanks etc,….

best regards.....Brian (Dubai)
 
Hallo!

I was on Baani Explorer afterwards (10-02-2008 - 17-02-2008).
It´s really, really hard for me to understand your descriptions. The week was great!!!
- The service was very, very friendly, but not pushy. (The whole crew was relaxed.)
- The dives and dive spots were grandiose. The briefing fits and picking up was perfect. All of them were ready to help, polite and nobody of us had ever bad air, nitrox also was available.
- The food was excellent. It was always enough for all of us (we were 18 persons) and nobody complained. (Some of us get thicker during this week.)
- We had four camera equipments and one profi film equipement with us and it was no problem to find a proper place or fresh water for washing our things. NOT - REALLY!

I can´t understand such complaints

Eva
 
I can´t understand such complaints

Hey Brian,

They are trying it again.... still LMFAO.... Paalease

Bruce
 
:argument:

Dear Eva, just believe us, our 2 weeks were not so funny than yours.

Its great, that you had no problems. That should be normal situation.
Our 2 weeks weren't normal at all. Believe me. And its no joke!

And we never said that diving in Maldives is bad.
 
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