Unknown Sea Story lob sinks

[rmorgan]

You can come with me, I'll them that you are my brother, half brother.

hmmm, how large a family expansion can you accommodate?

 

[BoltSnap]

hmmm, how large a family expansion can you accommodate?

As long as we don't share inheritance, we can expand really big

 

[touny71]

Can't understand how people are still missing the point, the problem isn't just liveaboard related. There's a safety problem caused by poor boat design and an habit to bend the rules.

But the bigger problema is cultural and deeply embedded in egyptian authoroties. If you happen to have an accident or are left at sea on a day dive from shore you can't count on them to be on your side.

 

[BoltSnap]

Can't understand how people are still missing the point, the problem isn't just liveaboard related. There's a safety problem caused by poor boat design and an habit to bend the rules.

But the bigger problema is cultural and deeply embedded in egyptian authoroties. If you happen to have an accident or are left at sea on a day dive from shore you can't count on them to be on your side.

Don't go out further than you can swim. Take a dpv as back up with you. Problem solved.

 

[Russjstewart]

To be pedantic, the Titan had not been adequately tested. As such, safety had been an issue well before the incident.

The issue I would like to see investigated with both the Sea Story and the Triton is the design. As both boats are recent builds the plans should be available for review. I would like to see the designs reviewed by a team of marine engineers. I am not sure a group such as the Marine Technology Society would be appropriate but at this point a design review is needed as to understand how it was or was a contributing factor.

At the same time, the boats still in operation need a similar review. Not just the live-a-boards but even day boats. But not just for suitability but operational safety. That is could any of these boats legally operate in US, EU, UK waters? Which I doubt, but what to what degree are the deficiencies?

I freely admit to a limited knowledge of the design, construction and inspection phases of boat building but the quality of any building project be it boats, houses, cars or airplanes is only as good as the regulatory and inspection systems in place. A designer can come up with a plan that ticks all the boxes for safety at the design stage, but unless there is independent oversight at the construction stage then the builder can construct anything. Not to mention modifications added later

 

[chillyinCanada]

Damn from reading this whole section after booking a LOB with Sea Breeze in Hurghada in 2 weeks, starting to worry it was a wrong choice

Please do a trip report for us.

 

[touny71]

Don't go out further than you can swim. Take a dpv as back up with you. Problem solved.

Your answers make you seem well balanced and without any counterpart on the topic.

 

[Jai Bar]

The draw of Egypt is low price, especially for Europeans and it's relatively close compared to other good diving destinations. It's obviously very hot in summer and pleasant enough in winter (drysuit for me, but I'm a wuss). The diving can be very good too. In the good old days, I could book a high end liveaboard with flights and transfers for GBP800-1000. I did a lot of those trips when I lived in the UK. Safety seems to have got worse, but maybe it's always been bad? Having visited the country many times, I'm not surprised by the safety issues or the way the liveaboard survivors were treated. Then there's all the usual ******** related to people trying to get every last cent out of you and hassles with customs. I would go to Egypt again and do a liveaboard if the opportunity arose, but I would be very careful about who I booked with and wouldn't take my son with me.

Regardless of price, Egypt has amazing diving.

 

[tekkydiver]

I freely admit to a limited knowledge of the design, construction and inspection phases of boat building but the quality of any building project be it boats, houses, cars or airplanes is only as good as the regulatory and inspection systems in place. A designer can come up with a plan that ticks all the boxes for safety at the design savage, but unless there is independent oversight at the construction stage then the builder can construct anything.

I admit it... I had to look up 'Pedantic'

 

[tridacna]

I admit it... I had to look up 'Pedantic'

I admit it…I had to look up ‘design savage’.