Question True requirements to deserve the title of Master Diver???

[Tigerpaw]

I Propose:

1- Complete the navigational part of Advanced open water, while back kicking, compass as the only reference.

I thought about this and said you know what let's do it. I navigated between two "wrecks", a helicopter and cessna plane which were about 100ft apart. I shot a back azimuth to the helo and away I went. I will say it was a challenge to maintain my heading since I was going backwards. Needless to say I ended up being about 5ft from the cessna. It was interesting and I also got to really practice my back kicks. Yeah I didn't do an entire nav course, opting to do one leg since I was solo.

 

[MarkA]

Q: True requirements to deserve the title of Master Diver?​

More dives than posts?

This is an Internet forum. Shirley it’s the other way round

 

[grantwiscour]

Travel / Tipping - now this is possibly the most important scuba skill to master in the recreational space. Do you travel often and tip well? If so, come dive with me at my master diver exclusive resort... nvm

Henry Hill was a proponent of Over-Tipping. Go above and beyond...I like that kind of gratitude.

 

[grantwiscour]

I think the real take away is that a recreational diver will never be considered worth or respectable on this forum, and even full cave divers are only begridgingly respected.

Well...respected by whom? Are you/we looking or needing respect from the SB klan? I don't really see it that way but I have gotten old(er) here on SB.

The "card-collector" that takes a cruise each year and manages a couple dives is one type of rec diver. The knuckleheads that I see on youtube with pretty good gear doing self-guided dives but touching everything in the gulf and taking fish for their aquarium that's even a different type of rec diver.

The people that I see showing up at scuba parks with their spouse or family and doing self-reliant dives. Proper trim, proper technique and not needing or caring whether someone is approving of their style...
The local divers you see outside of Kona doing shore dives...give some respect. The water out there isn't real friendly.

Maybe it is because I have more grey and time than some...what some see as cool or clique is really limited in the real world. Dive, dive, dive. Enjoy diving and the time underwater...someday it could come to an end and all we could be left with is arguing with others on an antiquated version of social media.

 

[pauldw]

I think the real take away is that a recreational diver will never be considered worth or respectable on this forum, and even full cave divers are only begridgingly respected.

Maybe you're in the wrong place. Go over to Reddit, and look at r/scuba. Anyone there with more than one post certification dive gets respect. And, the focus there is on actually important things. Right now, the top post is on increasing the strength of your bubble rings. I don't know if cave divers can even make bubble rings.

 

[diver257a]

Perhaps you mean the number of dives during the course. My question is about a number-of-dives requirement to take the course. For example, PADI requires 50 logged dives. If NAUI has no such requirement, it certainly does not have much meaning. It appears you could get the cert with fewer than 20 dives, all being training dives. Meh.

Apologies for what may be considered as an obtuse answer.

There is no requirement for evidence of logged dives in addition to the minimum of eight training dives required for the Master Scuba Diver course.

NAUI has just upgrade its website and the current requirement (i.e. January 2024) for its Master Scuba Diver course can be found on Master Scuba Diver - Continuing Education. On this particular page, immediately below the paragraph entitled 'Prerequisite', there is a button with the label 'View Course Standard'. Click this button and you will go to the relevant pages in the NAUI Standards and Policies Manual (January 2024 edition) which have more detail about the course.

 

[wetb4igetinthewater]

Apologies for what may be considered as an obtuse answer.

There is no requirement for evidence of logged dives in addition to the minimum of eight training dives required for the Master Scuba Diver course.

NAUI has just upgrade its website and the current requirement (i.e. January 2024) for its Master Scuba Diver course can be found on Master Scuba Diver - Continuing Education. On this particular page, immediately below the paragraph entitled 'Prerequisite', there is a button with the label 'View Course Standard'. Click this button and you will go to the relevant pages in the NAUI Standards and Policies Manual (January 2024 edition) which have more detail about the course.

Reading that requires effort. Not everyone wants to put that in. Though the NAUI master diver program should be common knowledge for long term dive pros of all all agencies. It is excellent. The book should be on every dive pros bookshelf

 

[tursiops]

Reading that requires effort. Not everyone wants to put that in. Though the NAUI master diver program should be common knowledge for long term dive pros of all all agencies. It is excellent. The book should be on every dive pros bookshelf

The book is 20+ years old, and the course requires no actual diving experience. Hmmm.

 

[Ted Judah]

tell me what requirements, training, and/or proof of skills would you propose would be required to EARN the deserved recognition of being a true Master Diver.

I don't know the answer but I would like to see a program that involves completing a certain number of different types of dives and conditions. ie: fresh water, salt water, altitude, tropical, temperate, cold water 7 mil, cold water drysuit, ice anyone?, coral, kelp, black water. Rescue skilled - first aid, oxygen, extracting divers from water, etc., physical fitness test, nitrox. And you could add to the list for more technical milestones. Basically recognition of a more rounded and experienced diver.

 

[tursiops]

I don't know the answer but I would like to see a program that involves competing a certain number of different types of dives and conditions. ie: fresh water, salt water, altitude, tropical, temperate, cold water 7 mil, cold water drysuit, ice anyone?, coral, kelp, black water. Rescue skilled - first aid, oxygen, extracting divers from water, etc., physical fitness test, nitrox. And you could add to the list for more technical milestones. Basically recognition of a more rounded and experienced diver.

Sure, that would be nice, but seems unattainable by most, within any reasonable time period. Requiring Rescue as a prereq is a good start...that checks several of your boxes. Requiring fresh water seems a bit limiting; why do you include that? What is different about it? Kelp is very limited geographically, as is ice. Why 7mm and drysuit? By "black water" do you mean night and over a deep bottom (i.e., searching for small critters) or just very low viz? Altitude is very limited geographically; other than depth/computer issues, what is special about that? Why no mention of Navigation? Or shore and boat?

See how hard this is to define?