Kat:
(A) That does not mean that their ideas/opinions/feelings are less important than the "grammatically correct."
(B) I wonder if they would interrupt you while you were speaking to someone else, to correct you. Probably not.
(A) Unless, of course, the communication of said feelings/opinions/ideas are lost in meaningless verbiage or jargon; rapped in cant and butchered language - which, invariably, finds its root-cause in poor (there's no such thing as 'bad') grammar?
(B) With respect, interrupts got little, if anything, to do with it: deciding whether you want to maintain a conversation (on-line or face-to-face), or whether to carry-on reading same, or just move on because someone might be putting across the point so poorly, is the prerogative of the listener or reader.
And for those who've cited The Bard and Milton: they did, in both deed and fact, derive new words where none existed before for a given object, feeling and turns-of-phrase; but they did so with a blank canvass; they did not cobble together a word or butcher a verb ('systematize') where a perfectly adequate one existed already!
For 'systematize', why not use the vastly more elegant 'to address systematically', ergo:
"Do it Right": from the flooded caves at Wakulla, to the [wreck of the] Andrea Doria. Find out how these divers go about/address their diving systematically and 'holistically', for both maximum safety and fun." ??
Surely the above is both more accurate and flows more easily?
I'm well aware that English (a non-inflected, Indo-European language) owes a great debt to its historical
'magpie qualities' (as cited above in deja-vu etc.) in that it borrows constantly from any number of sources; but when a banner headline to a forum glibly describes something with made-up words which jar, or 'toe-curl', the reader, then where are our standards?
And I am expressly NOT attacking anyone who submits to these forums; more over, certainly not those here whose mother-tongue isn't English; but when a globally used forum, using the
Lingua Franca, i.e. English, as both its official and
de facto form of communication drops such a howler!? Come on.
Would we take the same slap-dash and shoddy approach to our diving practises or the learning of same? Our diving safety? No. Then why take that approach in the chosen language on this board, which both describes and communicates the above two key areas of diving and its safe practise??
Would you allow an instructor, to whom you were listening, get away with telling you something you knew to be wrong or incorrect; if you knew he was merely making it up as he went along; with words you knew to be invalid or concocted? I doubt it. People using 'made-up' words and
jargon - for that's all 'systematize' is - only draw the wrong sought of attention to themselves - and the result can be that others begin to take them less seriously. As this working example proves.
Dive safe all - always.
Bren.
