You have GOT TO BE KIDDING!- New Aqualung BC

[GA Under Water]

that lever is no more of an entanglement hazzard than the HUGE intergrated weight pocket handles. it isn't even a problem unless you are swimming backwards and up at the same time. I would be more worried about the knife.

Elevator?? Why would anyone thing that. it is the same as an Inflator hose, you press one buttom to add air (UP) down to release (down) what they are selling are the small changes you do not while ascending ot descending, it's the little changes while at the bottom.

I think it is a great Idea, I would use it. I wouldn't buy it because I am on a tight budget.

This isn't anything NEW as to how a BC works it only moved the inflate/deflate button to a different spot. I really do like the dump from all dumps thing too but I winder if that could be bad engineering, you dump a valve and air isn't comming out of a hole in then water is going in Prolly not enough to worry about but deff a reason to clean your bladder after every dive.

 

[HowardE]

I see that Pak but what is the diver doing? He is controlling his buoyancy at depth. I might be wrong but I would like to give divers enough credit to figure it out.

it seems obvious to me from reading the website, and playing with the "demo" that this system is for buyoancy at depth, and not for making ascents by adding air. Perhaps their choice of wording on the website isn't the best. But I don't think they are advocating adding air to your BCD to make an ascent to the surface.

 

[Diver Dennis]

apparently some people think that - learning a different system may be too difficult for some less experienced divers :huh:

yeah, I don't know howarde. I wonder how divers can understand their computers?

 

[pakman]

no no, not the demo where you use the keyboard, but the little flash intro on their main page... I'm gonna have to agree with some of the others here that it would be misleading to beginners and promoting bad habits!

oh, btw, on the demo game, he bounces on the surface if you go to far up, and bounces off the floor as well...

 

[MikeFerrara]

I'm not saying it is an improvement, I'm just asking why...

The OPO inferred this was a dangerous product and would not want to see new divers wearing it and you seemed to back him up. All I'm asking for are some facts why I shouldn't buy it. And no, I don't have one...

I don't know how dangerous it is but it's very silly. If you're a good diver, I doubt that even this thing will actually get you hurt.

It's silly because we want to associate our decision to inflate or deflate with our need to be more positive or negative. In general positive/negative are inversly realted to our vertical direction of travel. We want to associate our decision about wehich button to use with positive/negative NOT direction. Further, I've taught plenty of people to dive and knowing which button to use has never seemed to be a problem so the whole design seems based on a false premis.

 

[Diver Dennis]

it seems obvious to me from reading the website, and playing with the "demo" that this system is for buyoancy at depth, and not for making ascents by adding air. Perhaps their choice of wording on the website isn't the best. But I don't think they are advocating adding air to your BCD to make an ascent to the surface.

I agree.

 

[loosebits]

Should this not be covered in your buddy check? There should be no safety issue as far as it's operation unless you are not their buddy and are coming in to help during some type of incident.

Who said it was my buddy who needed rescuing? Of course it would be unforgivable if a buddy's didn't know how to operate each other's gear but there are many cases (sadly) where it isn't the buddy doing the rescue.

 

[MikeFerrara]

Quote:
Originally Posted by pakman
actually Dennis, load up the main webpage for aqualung.

http://www.aqualung.com/home.html

the little demo playing says.... "Ascend" (shows lever being pulled up), "Descend" (show lever being pulled down)

then says "Control youself"...

I see that Pak but what is the diver doing? He is controlling his buoyancy at depth. I might be wrong but I would like to give divers enough credit to figure it out.

Controling your buoyancy at depth is exactly the same as when asceding or descending, you just aren't always going all the way to the surface/bottom.

I would give most diver credit for knowing this but, it apparently wouldn't be appropriate to give aqualung credit for knowing it.

 

[Diver Dennis]

I don't know how dangerous it is but it's very silly. If you're a good diver, I doubt that even this thing will actually get you hurt.

It's silly because we want to associate our decision to inflate or deflate with our need to be more positive or negative. In general positive/negative are inversly realted to our vertical direction of travel. We want to associate our decision about wehich button to use with positive/negative NOT direction. Further, I've taught plenty of people to dive and knowing which button to use has never seemed to be a problem so the whole design seems based on a false premis.

I agree that it would be better to call it Air In and Air Out. I just don't see any inherent problems using this system. To me it seems very simple but maybe I'm wrong and it will turn out to be dangerous in some way but until it does I don't see any problems with it. I just was reacting to some of the posts here calling it a bad design and less than safe with out any facts to back it up.

Please prove me wrong if it is dangerous, I would not hesitate to change my position if I see some evidence.

 

[somewhereinla]

Some of you are really too much...lol. You are making it out to be this "very complicated system"... From the user point of view you have either 2, yes only 2 buttons(Mares) or one lever. One goes down the other goes up. Now that's really complicated is it??? From an engineering point of view, not rocket science as well, fairly simple and elegant design.