Write your own standards - Rec Deep Diver, 130' max

[Jim Lapenta]

You are a little ways away but I'm taking my intro to tech and Heliotrox in Pittsburgh. Depth 150 ft with trimix of 21% O2 or higher and Helium of +17% or better. Using GAP deco software. This is a NAUI class. PM me for more info if you want.

 

[Divin'Papaw]

You are a little ways away but I'm taking my intro to tech and Heliotrox in Pittsburgh. Depth 150 ft with trimix of 21% O2 or higher and Helium of +17% or better. Using GAP deco software. This is a NAUI class. PM me for more info if you want.

Thanks for the info Jim but I'm not really ready for such a course yet, neither from an equipment perspective nor from a diving ability perspective. Maybe some day. I am looking for a more robust "recreational" deep(er) diver course. Pretty tough to come by.

 

[Ice9]

Whoa....now that's advanced, I mean experienced, I mean the shop is making money off a meaningless letter, A(from AOW)........

The letter A is far from worthless! Its one of only 5 vowels, making its value a solid 5.1:1 over that of the other consonants!

 

[Ice9]

Since there has been quite a bit of debate about the deep diver class, PADI bashing and an incident in an Ohio quarry, I figured it might be fun to create a list of what we would like the standards to read.

Here's a start:

Prerequisites: 50 logged dives of which 15 must have been within the last 6 months

Classroom Topics:
- Review Dive Planning, Dive Tables and Gas management. Remediate skills
as needed

- DCS-Oxygen toxicity, Review signs, symptoms, treatment and responses to
Embolisms, DCI and Oxygen toxicity issues.

- Dive equipment and redundant options including spare air, pony bottles,
independent doubles and manifolded doubles. Must include practical
bailout procedures and calculations. Also should include discussion of
unplanned decompression obligations and bailout.

- SAC and gas management for deeper diving. Include Rock bottom method,
1/2+200 and the rule of thirds. Discuss the theory behind each method and
where each may be appropriate.

- Physiology and decompression models.

- DSMB use

- Exam
Dives (4) over minimun 2 days. I dive must be below 100' :

Dive 1) Shallow skills, max depth 60ft. Review of propulsion techniques,
hovering, mask removal and replacement, OOA swims and ascents and trim.
-Do a 35ft UW exhale swim then commence air sharing with your buddy
-Simulate a stuck BC inflator. All appropriate exposure protection should
be in place such as hood/gloves
- Simulate free flow regulator at depth. Diver should ascent while maintaining
neutral buoyancy
- DSMB deployment
- Dive 1 may be repeated as needed. Students cannot go on to dive 2 until
all criterea in classroom and dive 1 are met

Dive 2) Max depth 100' (min 75')
- orientation and tour dive at depth. Divers will be evaluated on buddy skills
- At Safety stop, deploy DSMB

Dive 3) Max depth 130' (min 90')
- Dive team plans and executes this dive. Evaluate planning and execution
- At depth, deploy DSMB

Dive 4) Max depth 130' (min 90')
- Dive team plans and executes this dive. Students will be evaluated on
thier planning, execution and overall skills.
- This dive may be repeated to pass the in-water evaluation.

Sign me up, please.

 

[TSandM]

No, you don't need a tech pass. I did Fundies in a single tank. You CAN do Rec Triox in a single tank, too, I believe. And I know you can do Rec 2 in singles, because my husband did.

 

[Divin'Papaw]

No, you don't need a tech pass. I did Fundies in a single tank. You CAN do Rec Triox in a single tank, too, I believe. And I know you can do Rec 2 in singles, because my husband did.

Good news. I could have checked the standards, but asking you was faster!

Thanks for the info. That does in fact open up some good options for me.

 

[Thalassamania]

I think you’ve designed a great class. I want to take special note of Lynne’s comment about “Fundies.” Once you take a look at your course outline I’d consider taking everything that reads, “review,” “remediate,” or “shallow skills” or that should have been learned at the entry level and leven that list with a big dose of buoyancy control and split that off into a first class in a two class series.

 

[Drewski]

Good Thread:

One other suggestion for "skills," however. Like it or not, a majority of divers use computers or some other form of digital timing device. In lower visibility situations, even if you are using an ascent line (or especially a DSMB) it's not uncommon to do an "instrument ascent" (looking at the DBT to get your ascent rate correct while simultaneously controlling buoyancy and position with your buddy). Longer ascents using this technique take some practice.

Just a suggestion...

 

[Divin'Papaw]

No, you don't need a tech pass. I did Fundies in a single tank. You CAN do Rec Triox in a single tank, too, I believe. And I know you can do Rec 2 in singles, because my husband did.

Follow-up question for Lynn or other DIR folks ... looking at the new standards, is Rec Diver 1 the old Fundies and Rec Diver 2 the old Rec Triox? I was just looking at the standards on the GUE website and couldn't find Fundies or Rec Triox.

 

[TSandM]

Follow-up question for Lynn or other DIR folks ... looking at the new standards, is Rec Diver 1 the old Fundies and Rec Diver 2 the old Rec Triox? I was just looking at the standards on the GUE website and couldn't find Fundies or Rec Triox.

I think that's the general intent. If I go to the GUE site and go into Diver Training, Recreational, I still come up with Fundies and Rec Triox.