Why the long...................hose?

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Brendon, I'm having trouble visualizing that. Can you explain again?

R..
Boat Sign
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Directional sign, accompanied by "karate chop" type movement for emphasis

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Can also be "boat" then "question mark" to enquire from the problem diver whether they want to ascend direct or go to the line. Answered with either an OK or a thumb.
 
Oh I see. So I would interpret that sign as "go in the direction of the boat".

So are you using "boat" as synonymous with "anchor" when at depth?

R..
 
Yes thats what we brief beforehand and is standard for our team.
 
Ok thx. If I were to dive with your team (which I would like to do at some point... if you would have me) then I'll try to remember that. :)

As an aside I've been shamelessly borrowing some of your "trim" ideas and I've found that they work fairly well. I had a student the other day make an extended motionless horizontal hover (3-4 minutes) and report after the dive that in her opinion the 'coin fell'. This happend from using a trick I learned from you.

It was module 2 of the PADI course. What do you think she's going to look like after mod-5?

The other two students reported "still struggling with it", which is relative given that their buoyancy control is already better than 90% of OW students I've ever seen. I've set the bar very high, of course (who would have guessed) so right now they're in the steepest part of the learning curve. I'm already looking forward to Friday and mod-3. I'm already thinking about it. Been doing this for 10 years and I still feel absolutely driven every time to try getting better results than the last time!

R..
 
Welcome to dive with me any time Rob. Which trick did you use? Glad to hear I could help.

Oh and back to the OP, I have found a useful compromise is to swap the standard octo and primary hoses around. This gives better control for OOG and doesn't require any gear purchases. Can be done pretty quick on rental sets as well.

This presupposes a primary take/donate methodology anyway.
 
Welcome to dive with me any time Rob. Which trick did you use? Glad to hear I could help.

Oh and back to the OP, I have found a useful compromise is to swap the standard octo and primary hoses around. This gives better control for OOG and doesn't require any gear purchases. Can be done pretty quick on rental sets as well.

This presupposes a primary take/donate methodology anyway.

I don't have 4 hours to teach buoyancy control..... It needs to be done as things progress. Therefore I don't have time to have a student spend 2 hours (or so) trying to find their balance with surface supplied air.

However, I DID break down what you were doing to the basic building blocks and I introduced some of them into my OW course. To make a long story short, the result is that in mod-2 (less than 140min under water) One of the three students I have right now was able to hold a motionless horizontal hover for 3-4 minutes and reported that the coin fell.

The other 2 did not but they also reported understanding what I wanted them to do (where the bar is). Their buoyancy control is also better than maybe 90% of OW I've ever seen (yes, I'm banging my own drum!).

For me, working in the context I do, this is an efficiency improvement given that the '30 sec hover' doesn't even need to be introduced until mod-3.

R..
 
That brings up a question. I've never used, or tried to use, a 7' long hose setup. I don't think most OW students get trained with that, and I suspect those who do probably have better-than-average instructors. So, let's say for sake of argument the long hose style arrangement suddenly became standard agency practice for, oh, say, SSI or PADI. What are the odds mainstream-trained newbies would find a way to screw it up in real world OOA scenarios? Would it really cut down on badly handled OOA situations?

Richard.

I had about 15 dives when I converted to long hose. I saw my instructor wearing it during my AOW class, so I started asking questions and the more we talked about it, the more it made sense. We practiced OOA several times on land before we did a drill under water. The donation itself went fine without a hitch, i did struggle getting the hose tucked back away, but other than that we made a safe controlled ascent until we got to the hang line.
 
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