Why SPG on hip and not arm?

[Peter Guy]

And here I thought the "DIR" reason for clipping it off to the hip was because you want your gear configuration to stay the same regardless of the dive --- with or without "extra" bottles, with or without a scooter -- in the cave or not, etc. In at least one instance, you'd really want the SPG to be on the hip to be out of the way and since that's the way to "do it right" in one instance, it would ALWAYS be the way to do it.

OK, what have I messed up/missed here?

 

[DIR-Atlanta]

I don't know if this is a DIR-ish answer either but I usually clip it off on the left shoulder D-ring for normal diving because it feels "tighter" to me. When I'm carrying stages, though, putting it on the left shoulder D-ring feels "cluttered" and I put it down-stairs to keep it out of the way.

If it feels "tighter" on the left shoulder, then you probably have too short a hose. It should go from the first stage straight down to the hip, with little to no slack. This reduces stress and strain on the hose, as well as the risk of entanglement.

I do have a couple of follow-on questions though:

1. Where do you clip the SPG on a stage dive after you drop the last stage?
2. How do you illuminate the SPG when it is clipped to the shoulder?

 

[TSandM]

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A ScubaBoard Staff Message...

Okay, I have cleaned this up.

The reason the DIR forums were split in two was to permit THIS forum to contain some discussion of DIR practices and the reason why alternative choices weren't/aren't made. This is NOT the DIR Practitioner's forum, where only strictly DIR answers are to be given. Even if someone feels a given answer doesn't belong here, using the "report" button is far preferable to rudeness.

The DIR community has a nasty reputation for being jerks. Please, let's not perpetuate that here.

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[lamont]

The discussion of the left chest d-ring had nothing to do with discussing DIR and was just DIR-baiting, so it is removed along with all the rest of the responses.

 

[MaxBottomtime]

The discussion of the left chest d-ring had nothing to do with discussing DIR and was just DIR-baiting, so it is removed along with all the rest of the responses.

The reason the DIR forums were split in two was to permit THIS forum to contain some discussion of DIR practices and the reason why alternative choices weren't/aren't made. This is NOT the DIR Practitioner's forum, where only strictly DIR answers are to be given.

 

[Adobo]

And here I thought the "DIR" reason for clipping it off to the hip was because you want your gear configuration to stay the same regardless of the dive --- with or without "extra" bottles, with or without a scooter -- in the cave or not, etc. In at least one instance, you'd really want the SPG to be on the hip to be out of the way and since that's the way to "do it right" in one instance, it would ALWAYS be the way to do it.

OK, what have I messed up/missed here?

Do the reasons need to be mutually exclusive?

 

[Adobo]

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[lamont]

The reason the DIR forums were split in two was to permit THIS forum to contain some discussion of DIR practices and the reason why alternative choices weren't/aren't made. This is NOT the DIR Practitioner's forum, where only strictly DIR answers are to be given.

The kinds of posts that are in this thread which got deleted simply had no relevance to DIR, it was just posters making posts about how they dive and which isn't DIR. That can go in the Hog forum, in the Technical diving forum or just about anywhere else. If you simply allow everything into the DIR forum, then there's no purpose to it at all.

The purpose of the DPZ forum is to keep debate low. There is one single answer in there to the question of if you go to the post or the isolator first. In the context of debating the DIR valve procedure, however, there's a lot more leeway in the DIR forum than in the DPZ forum. At the same time the debate in the DIR forum needs to in some way center around DIR and not be a bunch of posters making alternative suggestions about how they dive with no connection to DIR whatsoever.

Also the postings that were made in this thread were obviously going to get a rise out of a few of the regular DIR posters, and they did. The posters making those posts have years of experience in these kinds of exchanges and should have been able to predict exactly what would happen and exactly what my moderator response would be. If everyone wants to duke it out like that, then they need to take it to the technical diving or hog forum or somewhere more appropriate. There's about a billion other forums on this board it could go to, but I'm just going to delete it when it shows up here.

(also, i don't want to delete this policy publically in this thread. please send me PMs. or if you absolutely must, then create a new thread to debate. any followups to this post will be deleted irregardless of content due to simply being offtopic).

 

[lamont]

I think the mod is a little over-zealous with regards to cleaning up posts in this thread. My "on topic" reply got deleted.

between the absorption delay of caffeine into the bloodstream, its transport across the blood-brain barrier and the recepter association half-time and the triggering of second messenger systems it takes way too long for it to hit my brain...

fixed.

note, however, its better to PM me about moderator mistakes that i make rather than to litter a thread with discussion like this...

 

[Thalassamania]

Sorry if I was obtuse. What I was asking, maybe not clearly enough, was given that the SPG hose routes down the left, what is the advantage of clipping it off as opposed to just laying it in the small of your back under your tank(s) thus eliminating a potential entanglement?