Which Bc to get

[aaen]

HEy Everyone

Just wanted ask youa simple question. Have been leanign towards purchasing a Bp/wings, and wanted to know what setup to get. I am6' tall, and weigh in at just under 250lbs. I am mainly interested in the dive rite Transpac, and the Halycon Pioneer setup. In your opinion what would be the better of the two to purchase. keep in mind that I am lanning on getting into tec divign in the near future.

Steve

 

[CincyBengalsFan]

aaen once bubbled...
HEy Everyone

Just wanted ask youa simple question. Have been leanign towards purchasing a Bp/wings, and wanted to know what setup to get. I am6' tall, and weigh in at just under 250lbs. I am mainly interested in the dive rite Transpac, and the Halycon Pioneer setup. In your opinion what would be the better of the two to purchase. keep in mind that I am lanning on getting into tec divign in the near future.

Steve

Which one has the larger lifting capacity? Go with it. Both are fine BC's with excellent customer service.

 

[ChrisM]

Which one has the larger lifting capacity? Go with it. Both are fine BC's with excellent customer service.

I don't know that I would base my decision just on that, depends on what kind of diving you are going to do.

Tropical warm water in a shorty? Pioneer 27 will do (can't speak to the Transpac since I don't know it) - If you can find an older batwing 18# even better.

Cold water with a drysuit? Pioneer 36 needed.

Need more info to base it solely on lift capacity

Chris

 

[jonnythan]

ChrisM once bubbled...
Cold water with a drysuit? Pioneer 36 needed.

36 lbs of lift is far from "needed" for drysuit diving in cold water. I dive with a drysuit, a 6 lb backplate, and an 8 lb channel weight. My rig, with a full Al 80, is less than 19 lbs negative in the water.

Why would I "need" more lift?

 

[ChrisM]

Ok Ok, easy there big fella, the point was that cannot tell someone which bc to buy based solely on lift capacity. And I was comparing the pioneer 27 and 36. IMHO, the 27 isn't quite enough lift for the way I like to dive dry, since I use a SS BP, SS STA, steel tank, and a couple pounds of lead, bringing me to near 24 # or so. I am the same size as this guy, so I am assuming similar weighting.

As far as drysuits, SS bps and Steel tanks, which is what I dive, I do not know anyone in my group of buddies that dives less than a 36 for that setup.

Doesn't mean that it is not OK to do, just that if the choice is 27 or 36, all drysuit steel divers I know use the 36.

And your post makes my point..... you wear 19# total, I wear 25 # or so total...... lots of variables other than lift capacity in choosing a bc

That's all

Not everything on this board has to be a war, ya know

 

[aaen]

Thanks for the replies. I guess I should in clude my build. I lift alot of weights and am fairly active in sports, that being said I do not have a god like physic. Anyways I have neen diving with a 7mm wetsuit, and about 30 # weightin Fresh, and 36# of weight in salt. Just starting so I think I am a bit over weighted, maybe even a bot uder weighted as I had trouble staying down on my checkout dives in saltwater, kept cominp up near the end of my dive. Also do you guys happen to now the prices that these bcs would go for, I can;t sem to find a website or a shop around here that sellls them.

Thanks
Steve

 

[jonnythan]

ChrisM once bubbled...
Not everything on this board has to be a war, ya know

If you don't want it that way, you shouldn't speak in false absolutes such as "cold water drysuit = 36 lbs lift."

 

[blackice]

aaen once bubbled...
HEy Everyone

Just wanted ask youa simple question. Have been leanign towards purchasing a Bp/wings, and wanted to know what setup to get. I am6' tall, and weigh in at just under 250lbs. I am mainly interested in the dive rite Transpac, and the Halycon Pioneer setup. In your opinion what would be the better of the two to purchase. keep in mind that I am lanning on getting into tec divign in the near future.

Steve

Of course both have their plus points as BC's. Personally I see the Halcyon as the way to go, from the point of swapping the wings between single and double dives. And the total simple nature of it. But each to their own.

Best bet hire one and try it out.

 

[ChrisM]

If you don't want it that way, you shouldn't speak in false absolutes such as "cold water drysuit = 36 lbs lift."

OK, fine, whatever.... feel better now?

Man, this board is more full of a holes than the local california boards.

later

 

[Scuba_Vixen]

you can imagine, each one passionately believing there setup is best..and for them it may be.

The truth is that there probably is no 1 best rig, there are going to be several that are equally good and whichever you learn or become most comfortable with is fine for you.

You mention bp/wing and also the Transpac, which is a soft pack bc, not a bp setup, but does have interchangeable wings. There is also the Transplate, which is a transpac harness with your choice of bp. I find the Trans plate/pac harness to be perfect for Me, but my torso is much differently shaped than yours...the Trans harness is very adjustable and for some, the small strap across the upper chest makes a lot of diference. You choose a wing size based on your individual needs and desires.

On the other hand, there are a lot of folks diving the pioneer, and with excellent results.... you may want to see what others you will be diving with are using. There is a lot to be said for gear conformity within a team.

Either way you go, both are excellent gear and have (generally)great customer service. It all comes down to "Not whether it's a Delta or a Dewalt, but the skill of the craftsman who's using it"


Do your homework on both and choose for yourself,



Darlene