Which 3 of these 5 islands would be best for a new diver

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My girlfriend and I were just certified so we can dive on the cruise we are taking next week. We would really appreciate your help in choosing which 3 out of the 5 islands to dive at...(we were not planning to do the dives offered by the ship - if anyone think its dumb/smart to not go with the ship please say so). Here are the 5 islands:

- St. Thomas (Charlotte Amalie)

- St. Maarten (Philipsburg)

- Antigua (St. Johns)

- St. Lucia (Castries)

- Barbados (Bridgetown)

Since we are new to the sport we are not sure what we like (walls, reefs, wrecks, ect) yet.

Thanks in advance.

Nev
 
All of the islands that you have cited are suitable for newbie diving provided that one does not seek out the most challenging sites, which obviously is not your plan.

As regards quality of newbie diving, Barbados, St. Lucia & St. Thomas are probably best. If you're not intending to dive at every port, I'd suggest passing on scuba at St. Maarten & Antigua.

As you have alluded to, there are pros & cons to diving with the ship's op versus your own selection, and time considerations are primary among them.

I'd suggest that you begin by reading this edited piece on cruise ship diving from my July '00 "Dive Workshop" column in "Rodales' Scuba Diving:"

"Cruise ships are seen by many divers as despoilers of the both the environment & culture at their ports of call. The situation in Cozumel in particular is regularly lamented on several scuba bulletin boards. Nevertheless, cruising is among the fastest growing segments of the travel industry, and bigger & fancier ships are regularly launched, and new piers constructed.

These floating megaresorts generally offer scuba diving as one of many activities, but rarely is it a focal point. This places them the most removed of water borne diving, with dedicated dive live-aboards being at the top. Between these two are the smaller boats operated by the likes of the Windjammer & Law fleets, which cater to those wanting some serious diving, but also a relaxed atmosphere and other diversions. Cruise ships do afford some advantages, however, such as allowing: (1) groups with nondiving members to vacation together; (2) the diver to screen a number of locations cost-effectively and with relative ease; (3) divers who are not into a trip of hard core diving to get an N2 fix; & (4) a convenient venue for a resort course or OW certification--anything beyond this will be conduced by the shore ops.

If you decide to cruise & dive, you can: (1) go with a traditional ship and let them make the arrangements; (2) do the same but arrange for your own diving; or, (3) select a ship specifically oriented toward diving. If diving with an op arranged by the ship, it may be selected based on it's ability to adhere to the ship's schedule, the amount it kicks back, and other factors not related to getting the best diving. If good diving is a priority, you often will be best served by making your own arrangements prior to the cruise. This can require some effort due to the ship's need to keep a tight schedule. It may dock after most dive boats have gone out in the AM, and may depart before others return in the PM. In addition, cruise ship piers are often some distance from the areas where the best diving is located. Definitely make advanced booking if you decide to select your own op.

Princess, Celebrity and Windstar are among your best choices in dive oriented lines. On board dive centers have instructors, and offer at least a resort course, with other certs handled by the on shore op. They endeavor to get you to the better sites with the better shops at any particular port of call, although for very experienced divers they often are not the most advanced sites or personalized ops. Dive gear is typically available on board, and, if not, can be obtained from the local shop. Some ships include gear in the price of the dives, typically $80-90 for a two tank trip, but some charge for rental. Best to check beforehand if looking to save a few bucks, but remember that schlepping your gear from room to shore op everyday, and storing/drying it your cabin, can be a hassle. Also, some ships have odd rules, such as wanting a logbook as well as c-card, or requiring a refresher a course if you haven't dived a while.

Bottom line is, cruise ships are not dedicated dive venues, and will not satisfy those who want nothing but dive, dive, dive or advanced diving. They do, however, provide an opportunity to get in a few dives and several locations while enjoying the other amenities of this type of vacation. DocVikingo"

Do have fun.

DocVikingo
 
Doc hit it on the head on many subjects. I dove for the first time recently on a cruise ship. I have been against it for a long time. Too many days at sea. Perfectly good vacation days wasted at sea and not diving. I plan my vacations to dive and dive only. As far as cruise lines go, I booked dives through them and was outraged at the price. I believe that we paid around $80.00 per person in St. Thomas to dive. I am use to paying no more than $55.00 for a two tank boat dive. The dive in St. Thomas was a 1 tank shore dive. After the alotted period of time, 40 minutes I believe, the dive was done. I still had 2000 psi left on an AL-63. The dive master let me and my wife go back out for another hour, the only rule was to come back out with 500 psi. The dive in Dominica was a two tank boat dive for $110. Expensive but beautiful. I booked a two tank in DR for $60.00. The only hassle them was the shop was confused that we wanted to dive. Thought we wanted to snorkle. Pickup and return can be a hassle as the operator needs to know that you need to be back by a certain time, this can dicatate the length of the dives and which sites they take you to.

Jerry
 
You did not say what cruise line, but Anse Chastanet Resort is a great place in St Lucia. Royal Caribbean took us to that one. It is one of the better dives and dive operators in St Lucia. Antigua is nice for snorelking but maybe not so great for diving. If you dive in St Thomas, then skip St Thomas and find someone who will take you to St John instead. The ship should have the St John option! Have fun and stay healthy so you can dive!

Here is the link to Anse Chastanet Resort

http://www.ansechastanet.com/
 
I second the opinion on the Anse Chastanet dive op. Very professional and the diving wasn't bad either.
 
Usually the ship will have contracted with a local dive operator to provide the dives and often they are just fine.

Keep in mind that if you don't go with the operator the ship sets up you need to make sure you make it back to the ship before it leaves port and that is not always the easiest thing to do! Beleive me I have been there more than once...

Have a lot of fun and dive dive dive.

Julie
 
i aggree with docV and beth,

your best bets for the diving on those islands are barbados, st. lucia and st. thomas. if you can get an op to take you away from st. thomas proper, even better... the reefs around st. thomas have been impacted by the last decade or two of inceasing tourists and ships calling. still lots to see, but you'll probably notice the difference even between st. thomas and the other two.

lorien
 
On 12-04-03 the inquirer, Nev4416, stated "My girlfriend and I were just certified so we can dive on the cruise we are taking next week."

I suspect that by today they have already been back home for nearly a month.

Best regards.

DocVikingo
 
very good point...

teach me to assume that just because there is a current post doesn't mean i don't need to check the timing of the original. will watch for this in the future. thanks docV.

lorien
 
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