What's the best Apeks regulator setup for DIR?

[scubamikey]

...I imagine because he is interested in progressing his training/style towards DIR. In which case it would make sense to look for a reg that is considered DIR by DIR divers. There are also concerns like hose routing etc as the diver may progress towards more advanced tech. diving.

Thanks, I wish I had started the thread with that.

What's the beef with DIR BTW?

As a new diver, I have to say the fuss over DIR makes a lot of people look childish. If I find a diving sytem or style that makes me a more confident and skilled diver, I would expect all the DIR and non-DIR divers to be supportive. I could say more but I know what would happen...

Also, if it's not clear, I'm a new diver and still looking for gear so I can get out to the shore of my local lake and get some experience. Therefore it would be nearly impossible for me to be a DIR diver. Outside of OW class I haven't even snorkeled yet, so I'm not even a DIR snorkeler. I figured I had to start somewhere, and I've been told that there's no reason one cannot start diving with a DIR setup. Don't worry, I won't claim to be a DIR diver. At least not until I can dive deeper than 30 feet .

It looks like I'll be happy with whatever Apeks I buy. Are they easy to get serviced in other countries?

 

[cerich]

Are they easy to get serviced in other countries?

No problem.

I would rather see you get Oceanic however!

 

[Daylonious]

I use a pair of ATX200's... thinking about maybe buying an xtx50 for a stage bottle reg...and Apeks has a deal now that if you buy a reg your get an octo for free..

D.

 

[cerich]

The apeks egress octo (the free one) wouldn't be the first choice for most(read all) in DIR. You could ebay however and recover some money.

 

[cerich]

The 200 is most expensive and it's what I dive.

Under that "logic" you would have an Atomic T2 (great reg BTW) or if it must be from the Aqualung stable a Mistral (which breaths like a gardern hose).

To think you talk about experts.....

 

[Tiefseetaucher]

I have a ATX100/DS4.
I was wondering about the Aqualung Legend LX supreme is it any good for DIR? I heard the Legend series is very good and reliable. I even saw some Tekkies use it!

 

[Adobo]

Under that "logic" you would have an Atomic T2 (great reg BTW) or if it must be from the Aqualung stable a Mistral (which breaths like a gardern hose).

To think you talk about experts.....

Maybe a topic for a different thread but...

This person is not the only one who has ever brought up this point around experts so I personally hesitate to singler her out for it.

In general, I find the mentality of relying on experts as opposed to self education to be little bit too conventional for my taste. It seems to make a lot of assumptions that are not necessarily always true including:

- the so called experts are knowledgeable. As an example, many people (with both a high dive count and instructor qualifications) talk freely about what they think is wrong or is inappropriate with DIR. I am no expert in DIR either but I do run around in some circles and have done my fair share of research. I find that there is just as much misunderstanding and misinformation as there is real grievances against the system and the people who practice it.

- there is a consensus from among the so called experts. Need I say more?

- that the experts are always able to look at a basic concept objectively. Once you form an opinion on something, a lot of times, it is hard to go back and re-think it and conclude something else. After all, it's not easy to admit that you were wrong in the first place, especially after seeing yourself as an expert. Noobs on the other hand have neither preconceptions nor are they married to any particular ideas. They are generally open to even the most absurd things and therefore are able to consider all options before making decisions.

My most interesting experience of the useless opinion from the so called experts came when I went shopping for fins. I had already seen some DIR propaganda (if you will) and went into the scubapro dealer to shop. After telling them of my interest in jetfins, I was told that I was better off with back split fins since they could do everything that a jetfin could do, only better.

Ever since that experience, I have given up using the old "experts" advice and decided to educate myself so I could make informed decisions. It's also a big reason I like to ask the experts about why they think something to be so... that I might better understand whether the expert is real or is really just full of crap.

 

[cerich]

Great points. I just get a kick out of both sides...

I tend to recomend based on what the cust. is doing or plan to do and then make the best recommendation for their needs.

For recreational I wouldn't recommend BP/w, long hose etc.

For tech I recommend DIR yet to a DIR purist my view isn't DIR

 

[wunat]

- that the experts are always able to look at a basic concept objectively. Once you form an opinion on something, a lot of times, it is hard to go back and re-think it and conclude something else. After all, it's not easy to admit that you were wrong in the first place, especially after seeing yourself as an expert. Noobs on the other hand have neither preconceptions nor are they married to any particular ideas. They are generally open to even the most absurd things and therefore are able to consider all options before making decisions.

How would one be considered an expert? I personally believe that in the end, it is all up to one's personal preference of one over the other. What's best for other isn't always best for you.

My most interesting experience of the useless opinion from the so called experts came when I went shopping for fins. I had already seen some DIR propaganda (if you will) and went into the scubapro dealer to shop. After telling them of my interest in jetfins, I was told that I was better off with back split fins since they could do everything that a jetfin could do, only better.

Ever since that experience, I have given up using the old "experts" advice and decided to educate myself so I could make informed decisions. It's also a big reason I like to ask the experts about why they think something to be so... that I might better understand whether the expert is real or is really just full of crap.

The LDS's view on could be based on personal experiences, research information, and/or even business incentives. In the case between the splits vs. the Jets, my personal experiences have confirmed me that there are certain aspects the Jets outperform split fins.

I wouldn't really consider one's opinion useless as their experiences can be valuable in cases we don't get to try out the gears before we make our decision. But it might depends on what we expects of one's opinion and how it will affect our decision. I agree with you in regards of self-education and other people's experiences and opinons are good secondary sources. So it is more of whether we would agree with them or not via our own justification.

Well, just my views...........................

 

[ZzzKing]

Also, if it's not clear, I'm a new diver and still looking for gear so I can get out to the shore of my local lake and get some experience. Therefore it would be nearly impossible for me to be a DIR diver. Outside of OW class I haven't even snorkeled yet, so I'm not even a DIR snorkeler.

Is it even possible to be a DIR snorkler?