hi bigredbill, sounds like you might be chilly and lookin for some warmth so here's what i have been using lately when the water temp drops below 55 or so. Non-crushed neoprene drysuit (7mm O'neil) then depending on the temp.work up from nothing to a full dive skin then add a full polartech when there's ice on the water.The regular neoprene is very warm, too warm for nicer weather thats when i go back to a wetsuit . I find i can use the same diveskin and polartech to layer-up under my wetsuit as temps dictate. What I also like about the neoprene drysuit are the neoprene seals they may not seal absolutely perfect so you can get damp sometimes but they will never tear wide open like latex can(I am rough on equipment) you also need more lead to sink the non-crushed suits but they will keep you warm even if you get wet. No system is perfect but i hope this gives you some ideas on other options. Also FYI I have been using a Henderson Hyper-Stretch Titanium for my wetsuit this year and it is the most comfortable one i have ever had, the outer material is not as tough as most others,but the comfort is well worth it as it will layer over anything with ease! Don't know if its a better way, but its another way! Dive safe and have fun!