What to do when "buzzed"?

[MSilvia]

"The Terrorist's Handbook"

Is that the same as "The Anarchist Cookbook"?

 

[MSilvia]

As Cancun Mark mentioned, freeflowing a reg to make a big bubble patch makes your bubble stream more obvious.

Sometimes I will also pull down the float down a bit, then let it pop back up a few times -- trying to make it obvious that there is someone at the other end of the line.

One problem with these suggestions is that, in the case of lobster boats buzzing dive flags, the buzzing is often BECAUSE there are divers there, not because they weren't aware of that. It's an intimidation tactic, not a mistake.

 

[MASS-Diver]

One problem with these suggestions is that, in the case of lobster boats buzzing dive flags, the buzzing is often BECAUSE there are divers there, not because they weren't aware of that. It's an intimidation tactic, not a mistake.

It's really a tough problem to solve and it will scare the crap out of anyone to have a boat right on top of you. I know a number of the local lobsterman pretty well and my buddy works for a guy that fishes out of the North River - some of these guys are just plain jerks. Reasoning with them ussually will not help.

Again, one way of dealing with is take their MS number and report them - this is the best way IMO.

Another way, which I'm not condoing, and I will deny I have ever used is to confront the guy and tell him that you are not a thief and you don't go into people's traps and could he please not endanger you life by coming so close or else you are going to report him. Some people have suggested that adding "if you come near me again I'm going to cut every trap near there" helps drive home the point.

I have a commerical job tommorow to recover a few traps for a Lobsterman that were cut by another lobsterman (and can't be grappled), these guys even fight with each other.

 

[yak]

It's really a tough problem to solve and it will scare the crap out of anyone to have a boat right on top of you. I know a number of the local lobsterman pretty well and my buddy works for a guy that fishes out of the North River - some of these guys are just plain jerks. Reasoning with them ussually will not help.

Again, one way of dealing with is take their MS number and report them - this is the best way IMO.

Another way, which I'm not condoing, and I will deny I have ever used is to confront the guy and tell him that you are not a thief and you don't go into people's traps and could he please not endanger you life by coming so close or else you are going to report him. Some people have suggested that adding "if you come near me again I'm going to cut every trap near there" helps drive home the point.

I have a commerical job tommorow to recover a few traps for a Lobsterman that were cut by another lobsterman (and can't be grappled), these guys even fight with each other.

I like that idea, let em know they'll be taking nothing from those traps if they keep it up.

 

[TTSkipper]

Just be careful the threat to cut the pots does not get you shot or gaffed.

 

[miketsp]

Is that the same as "The Anarchist Cookbook"?

I think I remember that one as well, very similar, but if I remember rightly it's a really cut down version. I checked in Google and the Anarchist Cookbook is still available on many sites. Unfortunately I can't check the content because of the Websense firewall filter where I am at the moment. I'll have a look this weekend.
At the same time as the Internet made it easier to divulge information it also made it easier for big brother to see who is accessing this sort of info. This post has probably been registered by half a dozen agencies...

 

[divinjames]

Just be careful the threat to cut the pots does not get you shot or gaffed.

I dive off Gloucester / Rockport every weekend I possibly can & have had mostly all good experiences with lobstermen. We've definitely had a few "hang out" while we were below. I've made some points by offering to let them know if I saw any nice ones in the traps.

I would NOT offer to mess with their traps in any case. It would most likely get you gaffed. Remember, this is their career - the thing that pays for the roof, etc - and have a little respect.

The thing to very seriously watch for is scallopping in Salem sound in the summertime. Have had some close calls, mostly by "boaters" not even looking forward, traveling at serious speed, talking on the phone, etc. On the weekends it is a death zone.

 

[MASS-Diver]

Like I said, my dive buddy works for a commerical lobsterman, some of our best friends are lobsterman - the problem is that some of these guys are real pieces of work.

I would never tell anyone to do anything illegal - it's a personal call. For me, some JA driving his boat on top of me on purpose is a big problem.

Again, I mentioned that threats are a last resort and I did say whether I had to ever use that one. In terms of getting shot or gaffed, my dive buddy is Marine who got back from overseas a few months ago - I don't think he is too worried about the 5% of lobsterman that are drunken morons and like to bully people shooting at us. Again, the best move is to call the CG right off the bat.

 

[miketsp]

Is that the same as "The Anarchist Cookbook"?

Well I finally made a direct connection to avoid the firewall and found pieces of both manuals on

http://isuisse.ifrance.com/emmaf/anarcook/indanarcook.html

Rereading this really brought back memories.
My personal favourite was AMMONIUM TRIIODIDE.

When I was at school in the 60s we used to paint the feet of chairs with the stuff and then let it dry. When somebody sat on the chair or dragged it across the floor they'd get a real shock as the stuff exploded and the chair would lift off the floor.