What is the deepest you can do an OOA?

What is your deepest OOA possible?

  • 40'

    Votes: 19 16.4%
  • 60'

    Votes: 23 19.8%
  • 80'

    Votes: 16 13.8%
  • 100+

    Votes: 59 50.9%

  • Total voters
    116
  • Poll closed .

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Tigerman:
But drowning aint an option at all.. still dont make a CESA a real option..

Tigerman: A controlled free ascent is a real option. It is certainly not the best option. Proper gas management, situational awareness, etc. will, in almost all cases, prevent the OOA free ascent. From my own personal experience the free ascent was a last option while diving with a trusted buddy in the days before redundant systems, octos, pony bottles etc. I had been diving with the same buddy every weekend for over two years. We made at least 4-6 dives each weekend. We always practiced buddy breathing at the end of our dives. On this particular dive we were boat diving off Point Loma in San Digeo, on the "pipeline", looking for a nice abalone dinner. We ran into a group/family of abs @ about 60-80 FSW. We both got busy measuring and collecting our 4 ab limit. My friend was wearing a J valve steel tank. He breathed the last 500 PSI and headed for me. I was tucked under a boulder measuring an ab when he pulled on my fins. I turned to see a saucer eyed diver who ripped my reg out of my mouth. I tried to hang onto to the reg and waited for him to take 3-4 breaths and give it back. I did have a spg gauge and I had about 600+ PSI at the time. I pulled on the reg to ask for a breath and my friend clamped down on the mouthpiece still breathing heavily. Our tanks were just on a backpack. I undid my tank and reg and PG and rolled out of it. My friend was still in a panic mode. I did my best to tuck the steel tank between his legs. I then began a free ascent. Without the steel tank I was positive. I was also in a very dense kelp forest. I kept one hand on my weight belt buckle and headed up at about a 45 degree angle looking for some sunlight in the kelp. When I found a clear patch I went vertical. Since we had trained NASDS we had practiced free ascents multiple times. I remembered to keep my head back and my airway open, blow small bubbles, and flair at the end of the ascent to slow down. It all worked. I popped up about 40 feet astern of our small boat. I inflated my BC and was trying to decide what to do next when my friend hit the surface in a sea of bubbles, He had dropped his weight belt but still had my tank and my reg was in his mouth. After we got back in the boat His comment was: "I was just going to give your regulator back." Maybe he was.

So, I know, from personal experience, that what we now call CSEA is, in fact, a real option. It does not mean that we did not make mistakes, even in the 1971 time frame, it just means that the OP had some merit. I've had several real world buddy breathing experiences since, some due to fairly serious equipment failures, never another free ascent.
 
beejw:
thats if you can bolt up from 130 ft, which is roughly 40 meters on a single breath....thats at least a 45 second swim.

^^^^^
And THIS is exactly why I have not moved off my point after all of these posts!
 
dumpsterDiver:
Some of the people who post here apparently feel that their presence proves how well a CESA works from depth. Wonder what the people who are NOT HERE would say about how well CESA worked for them? You know, the LAST time they every got to try it...

Don't know...but what I do know is that those who have HAD to do it and are posting now would most certainly NOT be posting now if they hadn't.
 
gangrel441:
^^^^^
And THIS is exactly why I have not moved off my point after all of these posts!

Again, don't forget that the air in your lungs is expanding and you have to breathe out as you go up. You are right though, it can be very difficult when under the pressure of getting to the surface if you ever want to have another breath.
 
JeffG:
I had to do S-drills and valve shutdowns in real life...but never a CESA. (Both involved free flows in cold water)

So...batter up...try again.
Oh, I see what you're saying now... you're not saying you shouldn't practice a CESA because it's so simple, you're saying you shouldn't practice a CESA because you've never had to do one, and you're confident you'll never have to do one in the future, so why practice.
Got it.
I'm sure you're right.
Everybody to their own kick.
I'll still do a deep one for practice every now and then, just 'cause I want to. I'm quite sure I'm wasting my time, but it is, after all, mine to waste.
Rick
 
I'll still do a deep one for practice every now and then, just 'cause I want to. I'm quite sure I'm wasting my time, but it is, after all, mine to waste.

And there you have it! Beautiful, Rick. After all, for almost all of us, the reason we are underwater is to amuse ourselves in some fashion. My husband thinks I'm crazy to go out on a 35 degree night and run line in a bunch of pilings, and Jeff thinks Rick is crazy for practicing CESAs, and I'm sure people think JJ and his colleagues are NUTs for going 18000 feet back in a cave. But each of us has his own way to enjoy being underwater, and more power to all of us! Merry Christmas, BTW :)
 
Diver Dennis:
Again, don't forget that the air in your lungs is expanding and you have to breathe out as you go up. You are right though, it can be very difficult when under the pressure of getting to the surface if you ever want to have another breath.

You missed my point. :D

I know the air expands. The response I cited shows that not EVERYONE thinks of that intuitively.
 
Diver Dennis:
That is true gangrel, it would be a high stress maneuver and staying calm enough to do the right things would be tough.

That level of stress is the reason I think it is rather important to perform it as a drill occasionally. That has been my point all along. Having done it = knowing you can. I believe knowing you can do a CESA might be enough in many less experienced (and possibly more experienced) divers may be enough to help them keep a calm head and execute a better solution until and unless they find that there is no better solution, then allow them to execute the maneuver without getting themselves hurt significantly worse than they already may be.
 
gangrel441:
I know the air expands. The response I cited shows that not EVERYONE thinks of that intuitively.

It may not be intuitive, but it SHOULD be taught in Basic Open Water training.
 

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