What is the deepest you can do an OOA?

[H2Andy]

OOA emergencies happen.

of course

You can't just say "don't run out of air".

we're not saying that.

take the time to read what we are saying.

in fact, safe dive planning ASSUMES there will be an OOA during each and every dive

 

[Soggy]

Every SCUBA shop sells them... I think SJ1scuba has a shop that sells them too for anyone who doesn't have one.

...and Soggy makes three!

 

[TSandM]

People who are OOA head for air. My nearest air will almost certainly, barring a complete disaster, be on my buddy's back. I think my time is much better spent practicing air-sharing procedures and good buddy awareness and positioning and underwater communication than practicing CESA.

 

[all4scuba05]

The problem here is that many believe that those who have an OOA situation had it because they f-d up. I haven't had an OOA yet, and I've never had to breath the pony. Wether you folks believe it or not, sh_t happens no matter how good you are. Sometimes it even cascades and then you're dead. If you think you're so good that redundancy or CESA training is not for you then raise your hand. You're the cocky diver I run into sometimes.
Wakeup and stop preaching that those who have done a CESA have obviously f-d up.

 

[mdb]

You're right howarde. No deco obligation CESA

I know some have already done it and come out just fine. Want to know what their depth was.

allscuba05: I've done a free ascent from 60-80 FSW-not sure of the exact depth. As others pointed out air expands on the ascent. The problem is not so much the depth it is not rupturing a lung while holding your breath. I did remember to keep my head back, blow small bubbles, and flare on the final ascent.

 

[Tigerman]

Wake up Alice! OOA emergencies happen. You can't just say "don't run out of air". It's not suppose to happen, but it does. It happens all the time! It's never happened to me, but it could. There is no excuse to not be prepared for it.

If you are ever in a situation where air is no longer available at depth what are you going to do? You going to just sit there? No, I bet you head for the surface, and if you've had proper CESA training you've got a better chance of making it there alive. It won't guarantee survival, but it will increase the likelihood.

People who are OOA head for the surface. People with CESA training head for the surface safely.

-Ben

OOA != CESA
CESA is NOT safe, as you claim it to be in the last sentence
That YOU are OOA for whatever reason DONT mean your buddy is.
You can always carry a pony bottle that can take you to the surface safely, for example..

 

[all4scuba05]

People who are OOA head for air. My nearest air will almost certainly, barring a complete disaster, be on my buddy's back. I think my time is much better spent practicing air-sharing procedures and good buddy awareness and positioning and underwater communication than practicing CESA.

No, your buddy just had an MI(heart attack), inflated his BC, and is now zooming to the surface. Are you tethered to him while diving? Then I guess you're a solo diver now unless you plan on ascending faster tham him in order to catch him and therefore put yourself in danger on a 100' dive. We've all heard of one dead diver is better than two.

 

[Soggy]

The problem here is that many beleive that those who have an OOA situation had it because they f-d up.

What would you call a situation where you, for some reason, ended up without gas? I'd call it a f-up. That's why team awareness is such an important skill.

If an OOA situation will result in a CESA, you need to rethink your plan. Either train better within your team, or bring redundant gas. Treat the problem (no gas to breathe underwater), not the symptom (bolting to the surface). That isn't cockiness, it is thinking about the problem from a different angle.

 

[all4scuba05]

allscuba05: I've done a free ascent from 60-80 FSW-not sure of the exact depth. As others pointed out air expands on the ascent. The problem is not so much the depth it is not rupturing a lung while holding your breath. I did remember to keep my head back, blow small bubbles, and flare on the final ascent.

Thankyou, that's what I was looking for.
Hopefully you don't get flamed for being in a situation that required it.

 

[H2Andy]

No, your buddy just had an MI(heart attack), inflated his BC, and is now zooming to the surface.

on the same dive that i mysteriously ran out of air?

hot dang .... i guess it's just my day to buy the fish farm