What is tec diving?

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Technical diving is a dive that requires more than one
gas and a regulator switch to complete the dive.

No its not.

Penetrating 1500 feet into a cave on double 104's is a "technical" dive by anybodys reckoning but it does not require a regulator switch or more than one gas. (assuming the cave is not too deep)

I think Walter got it right.
 
No its not.

Penetrating 1500 feet into a cave on double 104's is a "technical" dive by anybodys reckoning but it does not require a regulator switch or more than one gas. (assuming the cave is not too deep)

I think Walter got it right.

Don't think I made up this definition, I did not. Swimming
through a tube or cave is not a tech dive.
I know a lot of "recreational doubles divers".
Kal
 
.... Technical Diving is a useless term I wish everyone would stop using.

Not for the dive shops and equipment manufacturers.......they sell stuff like hot cakes with that term...;)
 
Don't think I made up this definition, I did not. Swimming
through a tube or cave is not a tech dive.
I know a lot of "recreational doubles divers".
Kal

See here is what I do not get (and I am not picking on you Kal, but it is the third time I see it in this thread).

Just because people do things without proper training does not make it less of a requirement for that training. If all 'recreational' divers start diving trimix to 200ft without the training, does that now become a recreational dive? If 10 'recreational' divers dive a cave and make it out fine, does that now become a 'recreational' dive?
 
See here is what I do not get (and I am not picking on you Kal, but it is the third time I see it in this thread).

Just because people do things without proper training does not make it less of a requirement for that training. If all 'recreational' divers start diving trimix to 200ft without the training, does that now become a recreational dive? If 10 'recreational' divers dive a cave and make it out fine, does that now become a 'recreational' dive?

You know the term recreational cave diving? It is used a
lot now.
It does not matter if a person is formaly trained
or not. If a diver is required to use more than one gas and
must switch regulators to complete the dive, it is a tech
dive. Let's hope formal training is sought.
Kal
 
Meng_Tze:
Not for the dive shops and equipment manufacturers.......they sell stuff like hot cakes with that term...;)

So we can lump it in with the same amount of usefullness as "5 star facility." It's useful as a marketing ploy only.
 
I really don't know what a "Tech Dive" is but like the judge said about pornography "I know it when I see it."

The term "Tech Diving" was coined by Mike Menduno back in the early 90's. He was trying to make the distinction between sport diving and what we are talking about in the same way that "Technical climbing" is split off from "Rock Climbing" or Technical Skiing" is split from recreational skiing. Basically, it is what ever you are doing that would not be considered to be "Recreational diving." I do know that it now means whatever the marketing guys want it to mean.

As for me, "Tech Diving" is just a set of tools that allow me to do something I want to do in the water. This generally means deeper or longer or under a overhead(real or deco), but may mean other things as well. We were wreck diving in the early 90's with helium mixes and doing oxygen assisted decompression. We were not "Tech Divers" we were "Wreck Divers."

As for Mike, here are some of his thoughts on where we are today.

A Message from Michael Menduno
M2 on EuroTek.08 & OZTeK'09

Where Few Have Gone Before
It was a little more than sixteen years ago, that I launched the first tek conference in Orlando, Florida with the help of handful of dedicated tekkies. Intended as an extension of "aquaCORPS: The Journal for Technical Diving," which I founded two years earlier, our goal was to bring together the fledgling "technical diving" community along with select commercial and military divers to share information and methodology, and discuss the pressing issues of the day. There were many.
At the time, nitrox-never mind trimix-was labeled a voodoo gas by "Skin Diver" magazine, and the D-word, deep diving, decompression diving or both, was considered taboo among recreational dive training agencies. For good reason: the fatality rate among so-called tech divers was skyrocketing and reliable tech training, operations and safety standards were all but non-existent.

That year, 1992, the tech diving community finally came out of the closet and, as a result of a contentious, yet enthusiastic tek conference, began to put the needed standards in place to assure its place in the broader diving community. Over the next four years, aquaCORPS hosted a Eurotek and Asiatek conference in addition to the US-based tek, and several new magazines devoted to tech diving also hit the newstands. The rest, as they say, was history and sport divers would never think about breathing "air" in quite the same way again.
 
It is 'useful' for me to know when a buddy says
"let's do a tech dive" and know what he/she is
referring to. He/she wants a dive that requires
multiple gases and reg switches as a requirement
to do the dive. A definition,IMHO, that has use beyond marketing.
example: We're going to do the Grand traverse at Peacock(a 4700 ft. dive)
. hmm, is this going to get technical? Shouldn't but just in case bring a
stage and or a deco. example two: We're going to do the Devil
bone room circuit. Is this going to be technical? Yes, you will
go into deco, bring an O2 bottle.
Kal
 
highflowdiver:
It is 'useful' for me to know when a buddy says
"let's do a tech dive" and know what he/she is
referring to. He/she wants a dive that requires
multiple gases and reg switches as a requirement
to do the dive.

It's useful if you are both using the same definition and your definition is that limited. Most defintions are not so limited and almost everyone includes cave, wreck penetration and deco in their definitions with or without a change in gasses/regulators. If you are talking with most folks and they use the term, it will be worse than useless to you, it will be misleading as almost no one uses your definition.
 
Getting into Tech Diving

As divers become more experienced and more educated with training a natural progression occurs towards diving with Nitrox (defined below). This in itself is the first step towards becoming a technical diver. The advantages are clear, better bottom dives and less post diving affects associated with with usingair (nitrogen loading and fatigue is accepted by all to being reduced when using Nitrox), though this comes at a price. The diver is constrained to a Maximum Operating Depth (MOD) which reflects the Nitrox mix being used for the dive.

The additional dangers of diving with Nitrox than with air are made very clear on the PADI Nitrox course, the dreaded Oxygen Toxicity. This is generally fatal at depth due to the associated convulsions which cause the diver to drown (unless a full face mask is worn). What is worse there is very little indication something that might be wrong before the convulsions begin.

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Uh......you kinda forgot trimix and all other non-EANx gasses in there... ;)
So since I can dive nitrox....does that make me a technical diver??? I don't think so....
 

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