JeffG
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I'm not frustrated. I know how wetsuits work and I'm not in to trying to make pigs sing. I just find it amusing that you keep trying to argue an itty bitty point so that you can walk away with some personal victory.scubadobadoo:
Wetsuit under dry suit?
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I guess they're having fun winding you up. And I guess it seems to be working. Personally I'm having fun watching them wind you up.
It will never end!!!!!
The water doesn't help, it's the fitness of the suit that does. The fitness reduce water movement or else, the water inside would be replaced more rapidly. It really looks like a political debate though. Meaning it's getting boring...
The water doesn't help, it's the fitness of the suit that does. The fitness reduce water movement or else, the water inside would be replaced more rapidly. It really looks like a political debate though. Meaning it's getting boring...
scubadobadoo:
What would happen if I put on my drysuit and dumped a gallon of water in it? Would that layer of trapped water help to keep me warmer?
For me, it's all about how the suit fits and letting in as little water as possible, not trapping water.
scubadobadoo
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JeffG:
The fact is that you have spent alot of time trying to prove me wrong and now that you finally GET what it is that I have been saying, you don't want to concede that you agree with my point. Even if it's only a kernel. A kernel that the scubadiving.com link spent a paragraph proving was true.
You were so interested before in wether or not I could admit I was wrong even after you missed that I had already said that I was wrong about my original posts. Now you are wrong and it only seems fair that I should return the favor. :05: Your above quote is proof enough that you agree, even if only minimally.
JeffG
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Whats the color of the sky in your world?scubadobadoo:
scubadobadoo
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do it easy:
Apples and oranges. A dry suit isn't designed to be used with water on the inside and a wet suit is. A wet suit CAN'T keep the water out. I get that the wet suit is keeping the water and the diver warmer than without a wet suit, but that trapped layer is still warmer than the water on the outside and therefore plays a role once it is trapped.
No matter how a wet suit fits, water will get in. Once it does, it is BETTER to trap that water, therefore that trapped water helps even if it is the great fitting wet suit that keeps it in there. It's there and it always will be. Now you just have to keep the NEW water from getting in.
Encyclopedia... "If water circulates freely in and out of the suit, however, the BODY uses ADDITIONAL energy to warm the NEW cold water. This is why snug fit is so important."
Scubadiving.com... "...you at least want to keep it from leaving quickly (BECAUSE IT'S NOW WARMER THAN THE WATER ON THE OUTSIDE EVEN IF IT DID ORIGINALLY AND STILL CONTINUES TO ROB HEAT), so "trapping" is a good thing."
It is all about keeping the water out, I agree, but when using a wet suit you really can't keep it out so NOW you HAVE to trap it. You have no other choice. If you don't trap it, you get colder faster. Fact.
do it easy:
Good example
I had a little leak in my drysuit last week in 41 F water and that trapped water sure didn't get my feet warm. Aquaseal to the rescue:05:
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