How did the guy get out, and the girls be locked in?
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Gary can answer you better, but I've been there a few times, and IMO you'd have to be way over the limit to think that you're still on the road when you head off that ramp. In the snow, maybe. But right now....mike_s:how do people keep running into the water here in the middle of the night?
It sure seems that we get our fair share of other than good drivers. Same lake, same ramp just different times and people.mike_s:Gary,
does your area just get more vehicles in the water than the average area?
was this at the boat ramp that you had posted previously about drunks running into the water? how do people keep running into the water here in the middle of the night?
BTW... i'm surprised they don't have an SUV for you to carry your gear in (the back of) instead of having your gear potentially in the back seat with someone you might have apprehended for something.
12 feet down is a Ford Exposition with two young females inside. Both were on the left side, one near the drivers position and one behind her. A young male was able to escape on his own.
I dont know, there are so many variables.mike_s:Gary,
So exactly how long does it take for the average car or SUV to "flood" after its been submerged? (windows up, vehicle upright, etc).
This might sound like a crazy question, but most of us have only seen submerged vehicles in "Hollywood" movies where they submerge with a person still in them, beating on the windows wanting out... etc..
Obvisousely you can't open the door until the water equalizes, but do the power windows still work?
What's the so called recomended "procedure" should a sober person drive his car into a lake and submerge it?
Oddly enough, there was a story in the news not to long ago where a car went into the water and one of the victums called 911 on his cell phone before the submerged.car filled with water,
As it happens there was a lengthy piece on this in yesterdays newpaper over here (here being Holland, a notoriously watery country). On a population of some 16 million people, we see about 750 vehicles ending up in the drink annually due to low visibility, slippery roads and driver exhaustion or inebriation, resulting in about 30 deaths.mike_s:So exactly how long does it take for the average car or SUV to "flood" after its been submerged? (windows up, vehicle upright, etc).
Its well known that there is a quality difference between cars built in the European countries and the US. If we were to place two similar size vehicles in the water under identical conditions I would bet on ours not lasting any where close to seven or eight minutes. Maybe one, which is still a lot of time.ArthurGerla:As it happens there was a lengthy piece on this in yesterdays newpaper over here (here being Holland, a notoriously watery country). On a population of some 16 million people, we see about 750 vehicles ending up in the drink annually due to low visibility, slippery roads and driver exhaustion or inebriation, resulting in about 30 deaths.
"It is a common misconception that you should stay in the car until it is fully submerged. Modern cars stay afloat for seven or eight minutes. Valuable time which must be put to use".
The article continues to describe the advised course of action:Source: NRC Handelsblad
- Switch on headlights and inside lighting. This aids both yourself and any onlookers or rescuers. Unbuckle seat belts.
- If you are alone, roll down the window and get out.
- If there are more people in the vehicle you should exit simulaneously to prevent it tipping over.
- If the windows won't open you will need to stay inside (with windows closed) until the car is completely flooded. There will be an air bubble at the highest point in the car, either in the front or the back. Find it.
- Once the vehicle hits the bottom, use hands and feet to open the door, take a last breath from the air bubble and get out. Push out any children first, holding on to them by the wrist.
- Get out of the water as soon as possible to prevent hypothermia.
- If you need to dive to the vehicle to retrieve a victim, don't go head first, lest you hit something and become another victim.
We don't have many SUV's or pickup trucks here, so YMMV.