NOVIZWHIZ
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Soggy:Ok, I was talking about diving not tunneling through mud.
HA! HA! Well...it's KINDA like diving... You know what thy say - relic divers do it deeper!
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Soggy:Ok, I was talking about diving not tunneling through mud.
novadiver:AH CRAP It turns out I might be DIR after all.
6474286:If you're wearing a crotch strap; then I presume you are wearing a wing and thus a technical diving piece of equipment.
Your right given a good buddy, you should never have to drop your weights. What do you do if your not with a good buddy? Or you are with a new buddy, and dont know their quality? Id like to say Ill never have to dive with a bad buddy. The only way to do that is to give up diving.Soggy:Why, though? Given a properly weighted diver, diving with a buddy team that will always have sufficient air to get an OOA diver safely to an upline and to the surface, what possible need is there for dropping weight underwater? I can't think of *any*.
And why does being in an overhead matter? In a cave, if you loose your weight you can walk on the ceiling if needs be. No such luck in OW. Woosh, hello mr. breaching whale.
Viscya:Your right given a good buddy, you should never have to drop your weights. What do you do if your not with a good buddy?
Equipment configuration and rigging are designed for safety, right? In essence we are designing in tools, ways to solve problems. Redundant gear in efficient configuration. Go through all your what if scenarios. Why would you want to remove one of those tools from your tool box. You cant drop your weights quickly when they are under your crotch strap. Have you tried? Its harder than it sounds, and takes longer than you might think.
In an overhead environment, there is no option to free ascend. Lock your weight belt in good. You dont want it coming off.
Viscya:Let me through in one more. During our classes we had to do rescue work. Have you ever tried to drop the weights on an unconscious diver who had their weight belt looped through their crotch strap?
Doing any type of strenuous dive with an unknown buddy isn't very DIR, and incase you're not aware this is the DIR section. Oh wait... that was already pointed about to you wasn't it?Viscya:Your right given a good buddy, you should never have to drop your weights. What do you do if your not with a good buddy? Or you are with a new buddy, and dont know their quality?
Soggy:If I'm with an unknown buddy, I'm doing a shore dive or a pond dive in 20 ft of water where I can safely do a direct ascent to the surface in the unlikely event my redundancy fails. I'm pretty selective about who I dive with, so this is usually not a problem.
Soggy:I have tried. In a pool on the surface when I first got my backplate. It isn't hard. I've also had to hand up a weight belt and doff my entire rig in the water on boats with poor ladders.
Soggy:As far as safety is concerned, an unexpected release of my weighting system at depth is far worse a problem than me having to swim up a few lbs of weight for a couple feet until my suit and BC begin expanding.
Soggy:Maybe that's the difference. I view "minimum deco" mandatory on recreational dives. There is no such thing as a safe direct ascent to the surface on even a recreational dive of any reasonable depth. There is no such thing as a No Deco dive.
Soggy:If someone doesn't feel comfortable enough to swim up 6-8 lbs, they should take up golf.
cornfed:Doing any type of strenuous dive with an unknown buddy isn't very DIR, and incase you're not aware this is the DIR section.
cornfed:Oh wait... that was already pointed about to you wasn't it?
cornfed:If you'd like to discuss the proper place to put you weightbelt while making a complex dive with someone you just meet I encourage you to start a thread in one of the other sections.