I just don't see it as negligent in any way on behalf of the landowner. The only people with real access to that cave are divers...and divers should know better.
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Tana
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You wld think... But Lotta 12 YR olds kicking around down there.
abwillingham
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Wow, talk about a thread revival!
Since you bumpped this, how was the vis and is there much to look at besides the rocks? Will be down there this Sunday and Monday.
As the parent of a 12 y.o. diver (who is also my most frequent dive buddy), and frequent patron of Vortex, I would say that if they are a diver then they need to be responsible as a diver. I don't care if they are 12 or 120 y.o. I am the parent and keeper of my 12 y.o. dive buddy.... He is responsible to know and stay within his limits as a DIVER. I am responsible to keep an eye on him both as his dive buddy, and as a parent. The property owner is responsible for......... upkeep of the property. Not mine or my kid's actions. If I couldn't trust my kids decision making in the water, I would never have signed off on him getting certified.
Just my take.
Respectfully,
James
In general, vis is great in the early morning, and deteriorates with number of classes in the water. If I'm first in the water, I can see all the way across the sight (crystal clear water). Lot's of shops use it for training, though, so individual classes will silt up areas causing a gradual degradation of general vis, and little localized spots of crappy vis...... which then settles out.Wow, talk about a thread revival!
Since you bumpped this, how was the vis and is there much to look at besides the rocks? Will be down there this Sunday and Monday.
There is a small cabin boat, a couple concrete platforms on the bottom, a cave trainer, and a sheet metal box upside down full of air you can poke your head into. Usually there is a hula hoop tied off to a cinder block if you want to practice buoyancy swimming through it. The central well has a largish cavern area, and you can see the sign at the true "cave" entrance from the central area.
My local shop describes it as some neat stuff in a space the size of your living room.
Respectfully,
James
abwillingham
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Wow, talk about a thread revival!
Since you bumpped this, how was the vis and is there much to look at besides the rocks? Will be down there this Sunday and Monday.
Yeah it was fun although a little pricey. I think it was $60ish for the day for one diver. Take a light or two. I have to admit a trip to the Piano Room is quite tempting for the OW divers: wide tunnel, clear, no silt, golden line plus a pipe leading the way, mood lights hung in the piano room, man made air bell at the end.
Also go to Morrison Springs which is very close by and is free. Get to Morrisons early in the morning and you will have it to yourself. That cavern is super fun and you can always see daylight through the door sized opening. There are a lot of fish including large eel-like fish all over the cavern. At the bottom, 90', its like a pressure washer blowing water out where they blew the opening decades ago. I think something like 40MM gallons of spring water flows out the door sized opening everyday so you have to rock climb your way in. Fun Fun.
boat sju
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I think I recall a gate and grim reaper sign at the cave opening (which wasn't that big). Am I not remembering correctly, because it wast that tempting to me?
kaylee_ann
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(PSA for anyone reading because the OP probably isn't even online anymore)
ahh...okay. it is your responsibility to do your due diligence and find out whether the dive site is really appropriate for your training level. just because you see a **** ton of other divers going in there, does not mean it isn't a cave. research the site: the entry/exit, conditions, all of that. any consequences you suffer, if you didn't do that, are purely your fault. yay Darwinism.
ahh...okay. it is your responsibility to do your due diligence and find out whether the dive site is really appropriate for your training level. just because you see a **** ton of other divers going in there, does not mean it isn't a cave. research the site: the entry/exit, conditions, all of that. any consequences you suffer, if you didn't do that, are purely your fault. yay Darwinism.
billgraham
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It's a pretty spring basin but the cave is mostly sandy. I only dove it one time during the Ben McDaniels search effort and it keeps getting smaller and deeper the further you go. There are much prettier caves to dive in the area, for certified cave divers. Instead of spending $60 to go there, save up a couple of bucks and take a cavern course, you'll see much cooler stuff and learn something, too!
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