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OK in a month or so i will be taking classes. but i dint want to rent everything every time and i not for sure what all is need things i would want to own and not rent is the total suit "suit hood boots gloves mask fines" because i know comfort is a must and i like to have that on my own
but my question is what all else is need to dive and i mean everything else and please dint use aberrations i seen in some other thread like bc i have no idea what that is yet unless thats what its called then can you explain what it dose
i know you need a tank so go from their.
oo and i live out side of Lancaster ca and most likely will do my training at sports chalet they have a class on base also "Edwards AF base" but i think the sport chalet has a better class set up even tho it cost about 100 more.
anyways what all do you need to dive after the basic body covers thanks
 
horsemen:
anyways what all do you need to dive after the basic body covers thanks

Most scuba classes actually require that you own the basic "personal" supplies. This includes the following:

Mask - The thing that goes on your face, and allows you to see underwater. You don't want to rent this because a) It's fairly cheap and b) Fit is very important. Your scuba shop will explain how to test the fit on you.

Snorkel - The j-shaped tube you breathe through on the surface to conserve the air supply in your tank. You don't need anything fancy, like dry versions that supposedly keep water out. Just go for a basic one, preferrably with a flexible tube on the mouthpiece for comfort.

Booties and Fins - Booties are neoprene boots that are worn on your feet when you use open heel fins. They protect your feet when walking around, diving/swimming, and keep them warm. You need to try them on before buying, real life shoe sizes do not always apply. There are two types of fins: Open heel and full foot. Open heel fins basically sit on your foot and have the heel sticking out. They're held on with a strap at the back. Full foot fins have a pocket built into them that completely covers the foot like a shoe. They're mostly used in warm water diving, where you don't use a bootie. It's best to go with the open heel strap kind simply because of the easy on/off of the fins.

That's really all you need to start diving. Take the course and see if you actually like it before investing ALOT of money in the sport. Wet (or dry) suits can wait, and are usually rented in the beginning. That's another thing you'll want to wait on purchasing until after you finish your class and have done a little research. You'll have to decide on the size based on what you'll use the most (listed as a thickness such as 3 mm, 5mm, etc).


EVENTUALLY, you're going to want to purchase:

A buyonancy compensator (or BC) device: This is the thing that looks like a lifevest that holds the tank to your back. It also provides lift, or buoyancy, in the water by pumping air into a bladder. That'll be explained in further detail later, and there are a myriad of options. You'll want to try out several and get your own because it's important you know this piece of equipment well.

The regulator: This is the thing that goes in your mouth that you breathe through and is attached to the tank. You'll learn more about in the course, and it's another main component you'll want to purchase later. It's quite possibly the most important piece of the scuba equipment since it provides you with your air. You'll want your own because it will generally be better taken off than rental equipment, and you need to be able to trust it.

Gauges (show you your depth and air supply) are usually purchased when you get your regulator, since they'll be attached to it.

A computer - Not neccessary but can be very helpful because it handles the tough calculations of the dive, and monitors several things.

Accessories - A HUGE category that covers everything from knives and shears, to whistles.


I hope this helps a little but I didn't want to overwhelm you. I also was intentionally explaining everything in a simple way since you're new and havent' started the classes yet. No offense meant.

Good luck and welcome to the boards.
 
Easy Chris, TMI. As long as someone has their own M,F.S,B and (arguably) Gloves they should be OK. There are those who say those who say this a gear intensive sport, and I couldn't agreee more. HOWEVER, also, one should consider what they are going to be charged for their gear, student materials,equipment rental and checkout dive fees before committing to any SCUBA Course.
 
Definantly do the course first. Have your own mask, snorkel, fins, booties wetsuit and hood/gloves and use the school gear for everything else.
Its always best to find out if you actually want to pursue diving before you invest in the gear. Also you may buy gear then turn up to the course and find the school gear is more to your needs than what you bought. Ask your instructor for advice as well. They are there to help
I hope this helps
Cheers
Azza
 
Generally speaking, as posted above, you will want your own mask, fins, snorkel and boots for the class. You can read about them in the gear section of scubaboard in great detail (probably more detail than you'll want when it's all said and done, but a very good source nonetheless) You can also ask questions about specific pieces of gear there when you have narrowed your choices down.

The accepted view on the rest of the gear is to use what is provided in your class so you can make sure you like SCUBA before investing a lot in it.

The other school of thought is that (if you are SURE you will like SCUBA and dive a lot) it's good to train in the same gear you will eventually use. I followed this school of thought, but would caution anyone else considering it to be very careful as your views on gear may change drastically when you take your course (I was fortunate that I got gear I am very happy with now, but only after several months of reading and asking a seemingly endless stream of questions about gear)

And don't overlook the obvious (and hopefully readily available) source of your instructor and Local Dive Shop (LDS)

Aloha and Enjoy your class...

Tim
 
Hi horesemen.

With basic covers I guess you mean Wetsuit, Fins, Boots, Hood, Gloves Mask and Snorkel ( all = Soft Gear) This is all you need for your scuba class. I would recommend Buying a wetsuit mostly, for hygiene reasons and fit. You have to be comfortable.

Your scuba class should have the rental of the Buoyancy Compensator (BC), Regulator (Reg) and Cylinder (Tank) built into the price of the class, for both your pool sessions and checkout (qualifying) dives.
Some Dive Shops (Local Dive Shop or LDS for short) does not include qualifying dives in the price of the course. As they might be far from an Open Water environment (quarry, lake or ocean).

You should not buy your Hard Gear (BC, Reg, Cylinder) until you have at least made some dives. And then only once you are sure how many times you will be diving per week, or month or even year. Hard Gear is relatively expensive and not worth buying if you only dive once a year when on holiday.
Also there are so many different brands and models of BC’s and Reg’s, that choosing the right one becomes quite difficult. :)
I suggest that every time you are going to dive, RENT a different make and style of BC and a different Regulator. This lets you “Test Drive” them and when you then decide to buy, you will make a better informed decision.

A Cylinder (tank) will probably be the last item you purchase. This very definitely depends on:
1. how often you dive
2. how far you are from an air filling station where you plan to dive.
3. how you travel to where you dive – (airplanes and cylinders don’t mix)
4. can you get a cylinder from your LDS or are they always booked out when you need one.
5. the cost of renting against the cost of purchase. Renting a cylinder 50 times is not even close to the cost of buying one. And then the cylinder also needs to be inspected once a year and tested every 5 years. Which cost extra.

Hope this is not too much information. And you can make sense of what I’m saying.
You will learn much in your course and in the pool sessions that will make sense off all the information available on this forums.

Good Luck , be save and have fun.
Harry
 
(Soft Gear) ya that what i going to get before class i know they clean them and all in the rentals but i rather have my own.

and yes they have 3 open water dives in the class i am right outside of la i know one of the dives are at the Catalina island and i think the other two is at a lake or something

ya i wasn't going to get all the hard stuff just was trying to get a idea what all a full set up would be. right now i am only 45 min from the ocean and in 2 yr i will be right on the ocean in Florida "eglin af base/ft Walton beach"

thanks for all the info got one more question, is their much light under water or is a light a must i know at the beach it dark up all the dirt is kicked up and their no calm water so didn't know if their was more light once you got way from shore
 
there are different amounts of light in different waters and at different depths. it is kinda equal to the 'viz' or visability. mostly, you don't need a light except maybe a little flashlight type at 'teaching' and 'first dive' depths until you are more advanced and doing overheads like wreck penetration or caves. and that's good, because a good light is a very expensive piece of equipment!
 
horsemen:
thanks for all the info got one more question, is their much light under water or is a light a must i know at the beach it dark up all the dirt is kicked up and their no calm water so didn't know if their was more light once you got way from shore
There is plenty of light under water during the day.

Poor visibility from stirred up sand or silt or other debris, especially close to shore, is a separate problem and generally isn't helped very much by carrying a light - all you will do is light up all the debris in the water and you still won't see any farther than you did before.

There are other uses and reasons for carrying a light, to look into dark places (holes and openings in rocks, etc.), but you should probably wait until you actually have some diving experience before you decide what you need. If you get into night diving, you will want to get different lights (perhaps bigger, more expensive, and certainly more than one) than you might want for other reasons.

I wouldn't be in a hurry to buy a wetsuit, either. I can understand your reasons for wanting to do that, but it wouldn't hurt to have a little experience with a rental to help you do a better job of shopping for the one you will own. After you have started diving, you will probably have a better idea of what kind of wetsuit you want.
 
Hey guys!

You forget the wet suit!

There are two types of divers, ya know: Those who pee in their wetsuits and those who lie about it! :D
 

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