Va. Tech shooting

[horsemen]

It was two seperate shootings, the first killed two people. I believe the police thought the killer had fled. Those two people died at the hospital. The next shooting all happened in one classroom.

The video I listened to is at www.break.com There are alot more than 8 shots.

http://www.break.com/index/virginia_tech_school_shooting.html

cnn and fox both had gun experts on in fire arms and they say their was at least 20 shots on that video so who said 8 needs to learn to count

 

[DavidPT40]

horseman, there are at least two videos out now. One does only have 8 shots on it.

 

[OH-JJ]

horseman, there are at least two videos out now. One does only have 8 shots on it.

Nope same Video, different editing.

 

[Jim Lapenta]

I saw a video that had the gunshots recorded. Violence happens so quickly, I believe that even if all the students were carrying weapons, the outcome would have been the same. I heard about twenty shots in the space of ten seconds on the video. Even professional soldiers can be taken by surprise and killed. These were just students in a classroom listening to a lecture.

My thought is this- there isn't a way to stop shootings like this, within the realm of living in a free society. Like I said above, violence happens *so* quickly. Its not like in the movies with long prolonged shoot-outs. In ten seconds twenty people were shot. The gunman had no concern for his own safety, so that even further reduces any possibility of stopping something like this.

The only way to remedy something like this is to prevent it from happening. I'm not talking about gun control. I'm talking about reporting unstable individuals who make claims of violence or threats to the police.

And make sure the police take em out. Not mollycoddle and send em to some nut ward where they behave and 2 months later get out and kill somebody. As it used to be said in the old west- some people just need killin. So good honest folk can sleep in peace.

 

[Wayward Son]

We do not have an armed society. We have one in which a lot of people own gun. Owning a gun does not make one "armed".

A safe full of guns does you no good, if they're all back in the safe at home & not with you when you need it.

A very, very small percentage of us are what can legitimately be considered armed, in that we not only own guns & have skills with them, we carry one or more on our person at all times.

 

[lamont]

wake me up when anyone in this thread on either side of the debate has an original thought or posts some original information...

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[shellim123]

Can we give our condolences in this thread?

 

[wardric]

We had a tragedy in 1989 in Montreal in a university, 14 victims, all women. The maniac asked all the guys to step out of the classroom first, which they did. Then he started shooting.

Since then, we have a very expensive (more than 1 billion $) gun control program in Canada. There was a strong debate and there still is.

Last year, we had another similar tragedy at Dawson college. The guys guns were all registered. It did not stop him.

 

[H2Andy]

let's keep things in perspective.

deaths in the U.S. per year:

autmotobile: 43,500
falls: 15,000
firearms: 12,500
poisoning: 9,500
fires: 3,500
drowning: 3,500
inhaling objects: 3,000
medical complications: 2,500


let's not blow this event out out of proportion, tragic as it may be

in a country of 300,000,000, about 12,500 deaths from firearms per year is a statistical nullity

(that's .0000416 % of the population)

 

[OH-JJ]

We had a tragedy in 1989 in Montreal in a university, 14 victims, all women. The maniac asked all the guys to step out of the classroom first, which they did. Then he started shooting.

Since then, we have a very expensive (more than 1 billion $) gun control program in Canada. There was a strong debate and there still is.

Last year, we had another similar tragedy at Dawson college. The guys guns were all registered. It did not stop him.

So what you are saying is that Gun control had no effect.