Used quality on MK10

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I have an opertunity to buy a used Scuba Pro MK10(First and Second). I was wonder what everyones thoughts are on:
1. Buying used equipement
2. This brand and model
3. Cost of service for this particular model
4. Whats a good price to offer for it

I am pretty new to diving and am aprehensive about buying someone elses equipement. The person selling it is reputiable and I wouldn't have any hangups on the quality he has kept it in. My concern is that it is "used" and its a life support system so its putting my safety on the line. I know that its suggested to service it after you buy something used. He isn't giving me a price he wants to sell it for so if it is a good product that will last a few years with regular servicing, whats a good price to offer him?

Thanks in advance for your input. If this isn't the place to post these topic, please accept my appologies.
 
Mk 10, G250 is a good setup. Have it serviced and you will have a good reg. I've seen them on ebay for around $150.
 
What's the model of the second stage?

All regs are used once you've used them anyway. Lots of people buy used regs and if you can buy it personally from someone reputable that you know it can be a good way to go. MK10s are still serviceable, also popular and if you don't buy it a number of people here might want to! We dove them from 1990 until recently - started to have rather frequent problems and I don't know if they were related to age or simply constant bad luck with service.

As far as how much, I'm not sure. I don't know what year they stopped making those but it's likely pretty old. One drawback to used regs is if you need to get it serviced as soon as you buy it, which is generally a good idea unless you know and trust the person has done it recently, that eats a chunk of your savings up front. If you bought a new reg you wouldn't be paying for service for at least a year, maybe 2. Also, for regs of certain brands (including ScubaPro) if you buy new you get free parts for life, though you have to pay for the service itself. The charge for parts may be kind of high if you're not under the warranty thing, so that's another extra ongoing cost. So used regs may not be as good a deal as they appear at first, except for people that do their own service.
 
Thanks for the feed back so far, love the explaination Damselfish. I am almost certian that I am going to buy it, he isn't looking for much because it is certainly an older model. Haven't looked at it yet, but the guy used to dive for the Navy. I think he would take real good care of his equipement. He did service it a year ago, but it has since been stored so I will need to do it again before I use it. If anyone can think of anything else about this reg, still leave some feed back.
 
Thanks for the feed back so far, love the explaination Damselfish. I am almost certian that I am going to buy it, he isn't looking for much because it is certainly an older model. Haven't looked at it yet, but the guy used to dive for the Navy. I think he would take real good care of his equipement. He did service it a year ago, but it has since been stored so I will need to do it again before I use it. If anyone can think of anything else about this reg, still leave some feed back.

I still use my Mk10 with a G200 I bought new in '89 as my setup.....No problems ever.....
 
I have a MK10 w/ G250 from the early 90's and it has been
a great, reliable regulator. Service kits are still available
and I expect will be for some time to come. There are alot
of these out there, they just last forever if properly maintained.
Expect service prices to be $20-$25 per stage plus parts.
Parts kit for the MK10 is roughly $12.60 and for the G250 $18.90.
 
Thanks for the feed back so far, love the explaination Damselfish. I am almost certian that I am going to buy it, he isn't looking for much because it is certainly an older model. Haven't looked at it yet, but the guy used to dive for the Navy. I think he would take real good care of his equipement. He did service it a year ago, but it has since been stored so I will need to do it again before I use it. If anyone can think of anything else about this reg, still leave some feed back.

Warning! If you follow my advice, you WILL kill yourself and possibly others. :no:


If a reputable person offered to lend you his/her equipment for a dive trip, would you first take it to a dive shop and have it serviced? If someone you trust has used his/her equipment and has never had any trouble and has taken good care of it, why would anyone assume it automatically needs to be serviced if sold? Why would a used regulator that has proven itself be more suspect than a new in the box one. One might point to the sticky (Regulator Brand X Recall) at the beginning of this forum to see the folly in this assumption.

Now, if you buy a used regulator (or any piece of equipment) does that mean it should not be inspected by someone who knows what he/she is doing? No! So go to the bottom of this thread where I placed my cut and past advice. You should also do a couple of searches in the regulator forum and use the key words "inspection" and "service" to get more information.

Soon (hopefully) a post with more detail by the Usual Suspects will appear in the form of a sticky to to lighten the search load, but first our master (LuisH) must put the finishing touches on it.


Again, I warn you, if you follow my advice a fate worse than death awaits you.

Regulator inspection:

There are a few checks that everyone is capable of doing. One is the intermediate pressure check . Get a scuba regulator intermediate pressure gauge : Intermediate Pressure Gauge Plugs Into The BCD Quick Disconnect Hose from LeisurePro.com

Find out the what the IP range should be for your regulator (most are ~ 135 +/- 10 psi .)

The intermediate pressure should remain steady after stabilizing within the acceptable range. If it tends to climb (creep) that indicates there is a problem with the first stage that must be corrected.

Another check is the cracking pressure of each second stage. Partially fill your kitchen sink and immerse the regulator with the mouth piece up. Air should begin to flow before the diaphragm gets more than a 1 1/2 of inches deep. You may have to put plastic tubing in place of the mouth piece to do this, but usually not. If you want to get fancy (there is no reason to get fancy) make a simple manometer from plastic tubing and a yard stick * » * » Manometer
and you can check the cracking pressure with a good deal of accuracy. If you want to get REAL fancy, buy a Magnehelic gage from eBay, but again no reason to do that.

Next, a water tight check is also very easy to perform and checks the integrity of the second stage housing. Hook
the first stage up to a tank and without turning on the air (or if you have a good tight dust cap you can use that instead) draw a breath on the second stage until you hear the diaphragm retract. Do not draw too hard as it will collapse the exhaust valves and cause a leak. Does the regulator hold vacuum? If so, it is probably water tight.

These simple checks can be done by anyone. They should be done prior to any dive trip, not to mention when new out of the box or after shop service.

Check early, check often.

couv
 
One comment on the Mk 10, it is a good regulator as long as you are using 3000 PSI or lower tanks,there are a handful of variations in the MK 10 mostly regarding the size and shape of the vent holes. Early Mk 10's that used the SPEC (filling the ambiant chamber with silicone for cold water diving) had to be packed before reassembly during service, this was messy, so scubapro redesigned the vent holes (multiple times) to allow the silicone to be injected after servicing. There was also a Mk 10 Plus which is a somewhat different regulator.
 
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