Uncontrolled ascent - almost what to do?

[vincent54]

I'm from Mi. Yes And I had a Unisuit that was a bobber. Not that difficult.

 

[Airburnr01]

There is no help for.. never mind, it is exhausting..


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---------- Post added October 14th, 2015 at 01:56 AM ----------

Dump air ,fin down, all doable, except for the people who dont at least try.

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[BRT]

I've done it. It ain't for newbies. If your tank is already low it will be real low, real quick. But nobody fins down and dumps air out of their drysuit at the same time. Fin down while finding your hip dump on your bcd to exhaust any remaining air there. Breathe out hard when you want to breathe in because you just worked kind of hard. Rotate and try to get the air in your suit from your legs to where you can dump your shoulder dump. Better to just carry more lead.

 

[Airburnr01]

Heres a thought, do a weight chk. The air in your suit is for relief of squeeze, not buoyancy control. If you r shooting to the top, awww never mind. There is no help for stupid. Yea i know. Be kind. Beleive me, that was.

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[vincent54]

I am not sure that OP had to dump air from drysuit. I think that's an assumption. Mine only had a chest valve and you couldn't dump inverted. NAUI taught it as a blowup if you got out of control, I'll check the book . I believe they recommended the head down kick, and hope you don't get bent or embolized.

The BC can easily be dumped. My point was to check the inflator hoses for slow, continual leaks.

 

[Iralub]

Heres a thought, do a weight chk. The air in your suit is for relief of squeeze, not buoyancy control. If you r shooting to the top, awww never mind. There is no help for stupid. Yea i know. Be kind. Beleive me, that was.

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No, that wasn't. The OP, a relatively new diver, asked for some constructive feedback. This is not constructive.

I'm going to raise a slightly different issue, because there had been a lot of focus on proper weight, but not much on air management.

The OP posted that he was low on air, in fact that his tank was almost empty. I'm not sure what that means in terms of remaining pressure, but it doesn't sound great. He also said that if he went deeper or finned down he'd run out of air.
Being low on air appears to have contributed to buoyancy issues, as he says he was fine with this weight on other dives where he didn't breathe the tank to near empty.

but buoyancy aside, this was a deep dive and having a low air situation seems to be an especially bad idea (yes, I've admitted to doing likewise in a prior post and admit it was a bad thing).

So I'm wondering, how low was the OP? what air management considerations were applied/why did he run low and why the instructor let him get low?

Also, was there a tank available at 5m for use at safety stop if divers ran low? If not why not? If it was, why wasn't it used?

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[BlueOcean2015]

Heres a thought, do a weight chk. The air in your suit is for relief of squeeze, not buoyancy control. If you r shooting to the top, awww never mind. There is no help for stupid. Yea i know. Be kind. Beleive me, that was.

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:bounce3::bounce2: Really a weight chk???

I was not shooting to the top but never mind, don't bother write more in this thread.

---------- Post added October 14th, 2015 at 05:16 AM ----------

No, that wasn't. The OP, a relatively new diver, asked for some constructive feedback. This is not constructive.

I'm going to raise a slightly different issue, because there had been a lot of focus on proper weight, but not much on air management.

The OP posted that he was low on air, in fact that his tank was almost empty. I'm not sure what that means in terms of remaining pressure, but it doesn't sound great. He also said that if he went deeper or finned down he'd run out of air.
Being low on air appears to have contributed to buoyancy issues, as he says he was fine with this weight on other dives where he didn't breathe the tank to near empty.

but buoyancy aside, this was a deep dive and having a low air situation seems to be an especially bad idea (yes, I've admitted to doing likewise in a prior post and admit it was a bad thing).

So I'm wondering, how low was the OP? what air management considerations were applied/why did he run low and why the instructor let him get low?

Also, was there a tank available at 5m for use at safety stop if divers ran low? If not why not? If it was, why wasn't it used?

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I think you have a point. My breathing defiantly changed when I started to worry about my weight and if I had enough and then I used more air, and I did not want to continued because I was afraid of loosing control. So when I could not use rocks for extra weight I made the up sign.

 

[tursiops]

It is my opinion that the OP is making all this up, and is a troll.
He has been asked several direct, simple questions, by several people, designed to help him out, which he has ignored.
If he is not a troll, then he is one of the worst-trained, worst divers I've ever run across. Good luck to him in surviving.

 

[vincent54]

^Might be. Found the text on blowup. Basically NAUI says you'll shoot to the surface in an uncontrolled ascent, no mention of what to do in the middle of one. I think they don't want you to get into the situation in the first place. The textbook is The Noaa Diving Manual for Science and Technology, if anyone is interested.

 

[BlueOcean2015]

It is my opinion that the OP is making all this up, and is a troll.
He has been asked several direct, simple questions, by several people, designed to help him out, which he has ignored.
If he is not a troll, then he is one of the worst-trained, worst divers I've ever run across. Good luck to him in surviving.

Wow you sound like a nice person.

---------- Post added October 14th, 2015 at 09:29 AM ----------

^Might be. Found the text on blowup. Basically NAUI says you'll shoot to the surface in an uncontrolled ascent, no mention of what to do in the middle of one. I think they don't want you to get into the situation in the first place. The textbook is The Noaa Diving Manual for Science and Technology, if anyone is interested.

Thank you ! That what I asked about, and now I know what more I can do besides taking rocks from the bottom.