Trouble getting into and out of Honduras

[Doc]

This may help: Most likely SAP to: Miami

Then it would seem pretty obvious that it was time to bite the bullet and pay to be flown from Managua to San Pedro Sula (since the OP says the busses are out)

If you have to get there anyway for your return trip to the USA, it dictates what is logical.

I didn't catch that in the OP, but it really doesn't make a lot of sense in the first place, not at this juncture.

If you're in Roatan, why would you fly back to San Pedro when you could take the TACA flight to Houston? (and then to Florida) Just book on the one that goes thru Roatan on it's way North.

Other mysteries, I guess. Maybe it was cheaper (to get to MIA?) doing it that way.

Again- always fly direct, non-stop from the US/Canada right into RTB. I know this situation dictated visiting buddies on the mainland, so it was different, but don't get drawn into this routing when for a few bucks more, you'll know exactly where you are going.

 

[agilulfo]

The government of Nicaragua, where the emabassy you speak of, recognizes Mel as the president. The Ambassador at that emabassy follows Mels orders. The ambassadors that publically question Mel have been removed. The Honduran Ambassador in the US is one of the removed.
If you do not think Mel has been spending time at the Honduran embassy in the country of his good friend Ortega and fellow Alba supporter you really need to check your facts because your looking less informed with every post which a week ago I would have thought impossible.

Wow! You sure couldn't have made it any clearer that you have absolutely no clue of what a diplomatic mission (i.e. embassy) is.

You may want to educate yourself here before you embarrass yourself any further.

 

[itsjustme0770]

 

[agilulfo]

Then it would seem pretty obvious that it was time to bite the bullet and pay to be flown from Managua to San Pedro Sula

I agree.

Maybe it was cheaper (to get to MIA?) doing it that way.

Possibly. The OP hasn't been really clear about what her routing was but, after looking at her post history, it seems that she had planned a 6 week trip through Central America with Nicaragua as the main destination.

While not 100% clear, it seems that she flew into San Jose, Costa Rica (or at least her bug spray did). If correct, she was probably planning to bus her way up to Nicaragua and then continue northward via bus/ferry to the Bay Islands before departing from SAP.

It also seems that she was originally planning to dive in Utila and then she added Roatan later on.

Also, from this post and this post, it seems that cost was a primary concern. Currently, an open jaw no-stop MIA-SJO-SAP-MIA trip is $375.89 on TACA's website. Price, and possibly uncertainty about the itinerary, might have influenced her decision to fly out of SAP instead of RTB.

Finally, it looks like the OP was aware of the situation early on but, unfortunately, her SAP flight did not fall within TACA's June 28 to July 6, 2009 window.

 

[RTBDiver]

Wow! You sure couldn't have made it any clearer that you have absolutely no clue of what a diplomatic mission (i.e. embassy) is.

You may want to educate yourself here before you embarrass yourself any further.

Lets see, first you think someone with travel problems should call the embassy of another country other than their own to help them cross into a country that is not on good terms with the one you suggest they call, You think they should ask help from the Embassy in a country that is very intimate with this political issue who is dear to Mel. Then you think Mel would not go to the Honduran embassy in Nica so I have to spell that out for you once again how little you know on the subject and the best you can do is post a link to wikipedia?

It is quite obvious you have little or no idea as to the situation going on but thanks for the effort. Keep it up and you may get something right, heck, even a broken clock is right 2 times a day

 

[RTBDiver]

Hey genius: why would Zelaya stay in the embassy of the one country that has sworn to arrest him?

You are just a sad liar.

Hmmm,
You suggest Mel would not spend time at the embassy, I explain to you how wrong you were and provide you with information contrary to what you would suggest and you think I am a liar?
Forget it, Anyone reading these threads will realize that you have very little of your own to say, you like to post links and youtube videos but when it comes to facts, you have few. It may be your opinion Mel would not spend time at the Honduran embassy in Nica but that means nothing when the facts show otherwise.
Another fact is that the Honduran Embassy in Nica is not going to give a rats patutie about helping a foreigner plan their travel yet you think they should call them.

Once again your lack of knowledge on this subject shines through

 

[agilulfo]

Lets see, first you think someone with travel problems should call the embassy of another country to try to help them, ...

I realize that this is hard for you to understand since you don't know the purpose, function, and role of an embassy. So, here it is:

The Honduran Embassy in Managua is a group of people from Honduras present in Nicaragua to represent Honduras in Nicaragua.

Since the OP is having trouble reaching a city in Honduras from Nicaragua because of the current political unrest, and since the OP has been told by two travel agents in Nicaragua that she can't reach SAP by land, it makes sense to me that one would want to check with the official representatives of the country she is trying to get to about what the situation really is.

I understand that you may think otherwise and if she had to travel to Managua through a desert on a camel's back I may agree with you. Fortunately, in this day and age, a phone call is not such an ordeal so I don't understand why you are so adamant in trying to dissuade the OP from doing something that doesn't cost much effort and which could give her a better idea on what her options are.

... The Embassy in a country that is very intimate with this political issue who is dear to Mel.

So, according to your logic, the U.S. Embassy in China could side with the Chinese government over a disagreement between the two governments, simply because the embassy is physically located on Chinese soil.

I sincerely hope you realize how ridiculous that sounds.

 

[agilulfo]

You suggest Mel would not spend time at the embassy, I explain to you how wrong you were and provide you with information contrary to what you would suggest

The links you provided say that Zelaya held a press conference at the Honduran Embassy in Managua. There is nothing in the links you provided that suggest that the Honduran Embassy in Managua is either sympathetic to Zelaya, that "Mel is staying [there] much of the time," or that "[t]he Ambassador at that emabassy [sic] follows Mels orders."

You also have yet to corroborate your statement in the "US State Department Issues Honduras Travel Advisory & Reality" thread, where you stated that "Mel say's [sic] he will not give into any type of constraints and will still hold his referendum once he is back."

 

[itsjustme0770]

Agilufo-

Tell you what. This is a totally serious offer. I'll pay for you to got to Nicaragua and ask the Honduran embassy to help you get to any of the Bay Islands. Heck, just to Ceiba. Here's the catch. If you can't, I'm only paying for a one way ticket.

Separately, you simply aren't getting (intentionally or unintentionally), that loyalties at the Nicaraguan embassy are divided. The employees at the Honduran embassy in Managua are siding with Mel. Hence, they aren't listeing to directives from Tegus or the current government.

Setting all of this aside, even in the best of times the Honduran Embassy rarely has a clue. Not the Nicaraguan Honduran embassy, but the U.S. one. I know this from personal experience. I was seeking to travel with my dog to the bay islands. Who would YOU think would know best, how to do that? I agree, the Honduran embassy here in the states. You (and I) however, were wrong. What they told me was that I just need a health certificate from my vet. Wrongo. You have to have a vet from honduras meet you at the airport, pay them to clear the dog. Fortunately for me, I listened to people on the ground who had done this before and arranged to have a vet meet me. Customs, as those who had done this before told me, refused my dog entry without a vet. Fortunately the vet was there and the day was saved.

My point here is STOP TAKING THE WRITTEN WORD AS GOSPEL!!!! Listen to what those who know are telling you.

 

[RTBDiver]

So, according to your logic, the U.S. Embassy in China could side with the Chinese government over a disagreement between the two governments, simply because the embassy is physically located on Chinese soil.

I sincerely hope you realize how ridiculous that sounds.

Poor logic on your part once again,
This is not the Honduran Embassy siding with another country according to them. You yourself have argued that Mel was wronfully deposed and that no governments recognize the new government so in your own arguments you would have to think Nica would still recognize Mel as the leader. This is any Honduran Ambassadors that questioned Mel's actions were relieved of duty within days of this whole situation, long before all the information about his illegal activites was known by all. It is strange however that Mel has asked that the US remove their Ambassador from Honduras but the US will not do so.
Now you are not only providing useless information , you are even contradicting your own past reasoning.
My god man, are you off your meds again?
As far as Mels statements, Many are on the News, I watch Channel 9 out of La ceiba, 27 out of Roatan and see a lot from Telesur which is owned by Chavez. You may be surprised but Honduras and Latin America in general are not quite up to CNN and FOX standards when it comes to posting every show on the internet. I know you find it hard to believe but i do understand why someone with so little time in Central America and so little knowledge of the area could easilly be confused.
Next thing you know you will suggest that the travelers ask Chavez to help get them into Honduras