Trip Report: Scuba Club Cozumel

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PlanoDvr1:
Eddy,
Wonderful and informative trip report, excellent pictures, just a great expression of what you saw and what you did.

I'm not one to point out what people do wrong so I won't, I was just very impressed w/ the pics and trip report.

Doug
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The things we pointed out to him were major safety issues, meant to educate him...not to criticize. People need to hear these things when their lives could be in jeopardy.

I always tell my students that a good diver is a diver that never stops learning, never becomes complacent or arrogant, and is onest about his/her skill/experience level to others as well as to themselves.

These things he did "wrong" could have landed him or someone else in the chamber or worse.
 
All points well taken, this last dive was a particular one-off fluke dive and one to learn from. It's not like I dive like this all the time (on purpose). Perhaps I missed some of what happened, we did compare dive computers and check everybody's air. I'm not advocating things should be done this way, nor I would do this again, I'm just reporting what happened. Lesson learned.

Thanks for the opinions and advice.


Eddy.
 
Christi:
The things we pointed out to him were major safety issues, meant to educate him...not to criticize. People need to hear these things when their lives could be in jeopardy.

I always tell my students that a good diver is a diver that never stops learning, never becomes complacent or arrogant, and is onest about his/her skill/experience level to others as well as to themselves.

These things he did "wrong" could have landed him or someone else in the chamber or worse.
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Agreed. He also did a great trip report.

Doug
 
I would like to add my two cents on Scuba Club. We were there over 4th of July and I tripped and sprained my ankle pretty badly. I was laid up for 5 days and then crutches the rest of the time. The Scuba Club staff were the greatest. Since I could not dive, Thomas ( one of the food staff ) brought all my food over to me in my room. He brought me magazines ( in spanish ), cookies and books. I can't think of one place here in the States that would go to that kind of trouble for me. It was much appreciated!!

Christi, on another note, when my husband went looking for crutches, he was guided to the Red Cross which did not have any. He finally bought some ( for $75.00 so don't trip) and I meant to leave them there, but by then I was in Playa Del Carman and there was no way to get them back to Cozumel. If I sent them to you, could you give them to the Red Cross? Or let me know how to get them to them.
Cozumel people are the friendliest and kindest people I have met. I will most definately be back since *sniff* I couldn't *sniff* dive.....hubby do you still feel sorry for me? I know you want me to be happy...
 
squidgy:
Christi, on another note, when my husband went looking for crutches, he was guided to the Red Cross which did not have any. He finally bought some ( for $75.00 so don't trip) and I meant to leave them there, but by then I was in Playa Del Carman and there was no way to get them back to Cozumel. If I sent them to you, could you give them to the Red Cross? Or let me know how to get them to them.
Cozumel people are the friendliest and kindest people I have met. I will most definately be back since *sniff* I couldn't *sniff* dive.....hubby do you still feel sorry for me? I know you want me to be happy...
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Unless you knew someone coming to Cozumel that was willing to bring the crutches, it really wouldn't be practical to send them back. It would cost you more than you paid for the crutches to send them down...plus, they would have to clear customs, etc.

If you could get them to me, I would be happy to drop them off for you, but it's really not practical. Glad they took such good care of you over there, but sorry you didn't get to dive :(
 
ewong:
Here are two articles I found that might help demystify decompression diving:

http://www.scubadiving.com/training/specialty_and_advanced/21_tips_for_decompression_diving/
http://www.scubadiving.com/index2.php?option=content&do_pdf=1&id=3361

As the article describes, most people treat decompression diving as taboo. Every
dive is a decompression dive. You don't suddenly go to hell if you reach decompression.


Eddy.
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What you did is like playing russian roulette. There wasn't a bullet in the chamber this time, but eventually there will be. You obviously don't understand how risky your actions were. I can only hope when that bullet is in the chamber you don't take anyone else along with you.

To quote your own reference:

The key words here are "properly trained and equipped." Attempting decompression diving without the right tools and training is extremely risky and accounts for the overwhelming majority of DCS cases related to decompression diving.
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James
 
Thanks for the report Eddy!

We're going back to SCC the week of October 15th. Your report got me jazzed up for my trip. I'm just debating now whether I should buy a housing for my Canon 20D. It's only another $2,500 (with strobe).
 
ewong:
Here are two articles I found that might help demystify decompression diving:

http://www.scubadiving.com/training/specialty_and_advanced/21_tips_for_decompression_diving/
http://www.scubadiving.com/index2.php?option=content&do_pdf=1&id=3361

As the article describes, most people treat decompression diving as taboo. Every
dive is a decompression dive. You don't suddenly go to hell if you reach decompression.


Eddy.
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Thanks Eddy, I am well aware of the myths, truths, and procedures regarding deco dives.

PLANNED decompression diving can be done safely, but as your own reference says...with proper training and tools. You have neither.

There is a HUGE difference in PLANNED decompression diving and UNPLANNED decompression diving. You did not plan your dive as a decompression dive, therefore, it was unplanned...and poorly executed. You weren't watching your computer, your profile was all over the place, you went into 21 minutes of deco (got this from the 11 minute safety stop you said you did and still having 10 minute obligation) and not only did you not satisfy the deco obligation on your computer, you ran out of air. By your own admission, you didn't even know what a deco stop was or how long your obligation was..."how long should I have stayed there?" your words in an above post.

This directly from your trip report:
eddy:
After a barrage of pictures, we quickly started our ascent. We were past our limits already. We were 1 hour 2 mins into the dive and my dive computer was already blinking saying that I was entering into decompression. At 20 ft and 2 minutes into the safety stop, I ran out of air. I started to share air with Sofia, who was also in our group. She still had 1000 psi! We spent about 11 minutes on the safety stop, but still my dive computer was saying that I needed 10 more minutes of decompression. In the end, we ended the dive with no problems and that last seahorse was worth it . Here's the graph of my dive profile:
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But, hey...who am I to tell you to take precautions with your life...you apparently know everything now because you've read a few articles and got a few dives under your belt.

Out of curiosity, how many logged dives DO you have??

Oh yeh, almost forgot to tell you...I've been bent...severely...and I wasn't even doing anything "wrong."

Maybe you should add these threads to your reading list for the week:
http://www.scubaboard.com/showthread.php?t=53196&highlight=Bent+in+Cozumel
http://www.scubaboard.com/showthread.php?t=89838&highlight=Bent+in+Cozumel
http://scuba-doc.com/tenfootstop/index.php?act=SF&f=32


Good luck dude!
 
Look, I already admitted this is not the way to do things. I never said I know everything either. I'm just trying to understand what's involved in a deco dive and not treat it as just something forbidden. Now that I know that I've done something wrong, I would like to be prepared/trained for next time.

When I said "I ran out of air" I should've said "the computer said I didn't have air".
I knew there is a reserve when the indicator reaches 0.

Again, nobody is advocating to push the safety limits. Like I said, I'm just reporting what happened and lucky to be here.

Thanks again,


Eddy.
 
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