Tipping is not the name of a town in China.

[theduckguru]

I have never had a dive op post their price as $$ plus tip, but I have been on several US dive ops where tipping was not as customary as you suggest. I can also direct you to many dive op websites where leaving a tip is not even mentioned.

Here it ranges from 90-130 USD.... plus tip

 

[GrumpyOldGuy]

Geeze, go to the bathroom and get that thong out of your ass will you?....

Seems like my question is really tweaking you!

First you blabber on about diving the worlds strongest maelstrom in one post instead of answering, now you try to insult me by claiming I am wearing a thong.

Maybe you just don't have the guts to admit the socialistic system in your country makes boat diving prohibitively expensive.

I am honest enough to admit tipping in the has it flaws, but I also see some of its advantages and am willing to live with it. When in other countries, I follow their customs to the best of my ability and don't complain. Although I admit after a trip to Copenhagen this year, my wallet was a bit thinner than expected.

 

[Tigerman]

Seems like my question is really tweaking you!

First you blabber on about diving the worlds strongest maelstrom in one post instead of answering, now you try to insult me by claiming I am wearing a thong.

Maybe you just don't have the guts to admit the socialistic system in your country makes boat diving prohibitively expensive.

I am honest enough to admit tipping in the has it flaws, but I also see some of its advantages and am willing to live with it. When in other countries, I follow their customs to the best of my ability and don't complain. Although I admit after a trip to Copenhagen this year, my wallet was a bit thinner than expected.

I answered the question to the best of my ability and the conditions of that divesite is highly relevant as to why the cost there is higher than my semi-local shop. Yet you decided to start ****-flinging over the answer, so yeah, I do suggest you have your underwear stuck up somewhere uncomfortable!

If you cant accept the prices I DID INFACT give you (105 for 2 dives at a very good, but challenging site and 55 for 2 dives semi-locally) as an answer to your questing instead of mouthing off about it not being an answer, then you really should go take a good long hard look at you attitude

I also never said tipping was either wrong or right, I said its why employers in certain areas/occupations get away with paying less than we'd consider a reasonable pay. The fact that you and some others choose to read more into that is not my damn problem but yours

 

[k ellis]

Wow guys really this is nothing to get all bent out of shape over. All the O.P. was doing was stating what he saw occur on a dive trip and expressed his opinion over the matter. I really dont see where this has to resort to name calling.

 

[bilsant]

By "good service" I of course mean, "better than whats to be expected".
Staff is expected to be polite and make sure you get your food and drinks and theire paid for it.
And as for the pay, the MINIMUM hourly pay in Norway is ~22 USD and its ILLEGAL to have anyone employed for less.

As for my first reply it was a direct reply to WHY employers many places get away with with not paying decent wages and nothing more.

So you're saying you don't tip because you don't receive service that was better than expected?

Or is there another reason?

 

[Rich Keller]

As I said at the start I do not use charters very often so all I am looking for is an idea of what is customary. My yearly Florida trip with my cousins will be in the Keys going forward so I will be doing this more often and am more interested in what is common in this part of the world. I may be asking too broad a question so let me break it down a little. A number of people here and in other threads have said they tip someone who has taken care of them but no real break down of how they are being taken care of. What are you tipping for? What are you expecting the captain, DM and crew to be doing for you? What have they failed to do that caused you to not tip? I am not new to diving so in my case these people did not need to help me in any way other than to steady be on deck and give me a detailed idea of what I would find on the dive site. The site information was by far the most useful thing any of them had done for me.

 

[GrumpyOldGuy]

If you cant accept the prices I DID INFACT give you (105 for 2 dives at a very good, but challenging site and 55 for 2 dives semi-locally) as an answer to your questing instead of mouthing off about it not being an answer, then you really should go take a good long hard look at you attitude

If you recall, I merely pointed out tipping is an efficient methods of paying for personal service. I am not trying to pass judgement if its good or bad, only that is has some good traits.

I simply asked about 3 dive day boat cost. Its a common denominator across many dive areas and could be interesting to see how the different methods of paying for service affect your dive cost. I am not attacking you, your country or methods, just want the data. Your response of never doing a 3 day dive trip leads me to consider you are not even understanding the question. You answer of 105 USD for diving Saltstrumen (which is a shore dive) confirms this. So is the $55 figure also a shore dive?

BTW: Saltstrumen does look very cool and its now on my bucket list, thanks for pointing it out.

From the little I could gather, boats in Norway are about $135 for a 2 dive day, compared to $80 for the US. My sample was absurdly small, not many running with info in the web, so I thought asking a native of the country who has much more information at his disposal would be the smart thing to do.

If I had asked this information in person, over a beer I am sure you would have given me a straight answer or discussed this in an intelligent manner. We might have each gained some knowledge and enjoyed the discussion.

Sometimes on a BBS its too easy to misunderstand and take offense when none was intended. I think we are past that point so with the post I sign off respectfully to avoid further confrontation.

 

[theduckguru]

I just came back from a week in the Keys, dove with three ops in six days and I was the only one putting money in the jar.

If tipping for dive charters was as customary as some suggest, I don't think this would be your observation.

If you require me to carry short filled tanks to the boat, you are not likely getting a tip.

 

[Tigerman]

...
So is the $55 figure also a shore dive?
...

No, thats a simple 2-dive day boat.

@bilsant
I never said I dont tip, I said its not something youre EXPECTED to do HERE.
And no, If I just receive the same run-of-the-mill hello, can I take your order, heres your food, goodbye service that people are employed and paid to give, I dont consider that anything "tip-worthy" around here..

 

[bilsant]

No, thats a simple 2-dive day boat.

@bilsant
I never said I dont tip, I said its not something youre EXPECTED to do HERE.
And no, If I just receive the same run-of-the-mill hello, can I take your order, heres your food, goodbye service that people are employed and paid to give, I dont consider that anything "tip-worthy" around here..

Why did you shift the discussion from dive ops support by a DM or crew to restaurant service? Do you view them as the same thing?

Have your experiences with your local dive ops (I don't know how much experience, as you "just don't log dives") all been un-"tip-worthy"?