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I gotta' say... :nono: No, I won't.
He makes me want to tip more, to offset people like him. :bonk:
Tipping in Roatan
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I gotta' say... :nono: No, I won't.
He makes me want to tip more, to offset people like him. :bonk:
OP
As quoted
"It's frequently said that many people in these jobs make alot of their income from tips"
Now this is true in America to a great extent, especially in the food service and bar industry.
But everyone, get it out of your head, WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT AMERICA, we are talking about a little Island off the coast of Honduras.
So why are you tipping someone 1/4 or their monthly wage?
If I recall tipping is for good service, it seems that many of you feel as though you are giving money to those who are less fortunate, in that case it's not tipping. It's Foreign Aid!!!
Travel a bit and see how the rest of the world is!
"It's frequently said that many people in these jobs make alot of their income from tips"
Now this is true in America to a great extent, especially in the food service and bar industry.
But everyone, get it out of your head, WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT AMERICA, we are talking about a little Island off the coast of Honduras.
So why are you tipping someone 1/4 or their monthly wage?
If I recall tipping is for good service, it seems that many of you feel as though you are giving money to those who are less fortunate, in that case it's not tipping. It's Foreign Aid!!!
Travel a bit and see how the rest of the world is!
Damselfish
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If I recall, there are a variety of ways to figure tips. One common way is based on a percentage of whatever you paid for the service to begin with. Another is flat amounts for certain services. Yet another is simply what you feel it is worth...or not. I must say, I've never heard of calculating it as a percentage of someones annual income. (Nor would I ask someone's income in order to calculate it - but I'm sure you'll say that's an American thing too!)
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Yet another is simply what you feel it is worth...or not. I must say, I've never heard of calculating it as a percentage of someones annual income. (Nor would I ask someone's income in order to calculate it - but I'm sure you'll say that's an American thing too!)
Neither have I heard of this method, as it was only a comparison. But a good one at that. I worked in Australia for 10 years, and recall several times being pulled aside after leaving a tip on the bar and plainly told "Don't start that stuff over here", the person meant to say, Tipping is an American custom and should be left there!!!!
Things have changed a bit there since then, but as my Kiwi friend once said, why tip them they are just doing there job!!!!
"Get out an travel, it will do you some good" and the Carribean does not count.
Neither have I heard of this method, as it was only a comparison. But a good one at that. I worked in Australia for 10 years, and recall several times being pulled aside after leaving a tip on the bar and plainly told "Don't start that stuff over here", the person meant to say, Tipping is an American custom and should be left there!!!!
Things have changed a bit there since then, but as my Kiwi friend once said, why tip them they are just doing there job!!!!
"Get out an travel, it will do you some good" and the Carribean does not count.
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I guess I have two reasons for trying to tip well:
(1) When I visit a country where natives typically live in poverty, I am there as a paying guest, but nonetheless - a guest. I am there to utilize the country's resources and perhaps enjoy lower prices which are usually a direct reflection of the fact that the people serving me are living in poverty. To tip $5.80 for a week would be abusive of me. :boom: I am a healthier and happier person when I live a program of gratitude.
(2) Unless they are just doing there job. If the native worker is only "doing their job," I'd be disappointed in poorer services than I usually enjoy. I am happy to say that I enjoy good services, and I tip mostly to reinforce this!
I wonder if the cheepo gets as good of service as I do? I wonder if they can tell that he is a selfish tightwad, and there's no point in doing more than their job?
But I do agree on a couple of exceptions: (a) if the local custom discourages tipping, I'll limit myself to giving out my personal business pens, and (b) I ignore tip jars that strike me as excessive, like a retail outlet where the employee is only doing their job, i.e. a clerk at a convenience store.
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I wonder if the cheepo gets as good of service as I do? I wonder if they can tell that he is a selfish tightwad, and there's no point in doing more than their job?
You seem pretty quick when it comes to judging people, and even quicker when judging a person's character on how much they tip. So I guess all my mates in Australia and New Zealand are 'cheepos' ? I can take one look at your Profile (photo) and make a judgment about you as well, but I won't stoop to personal 'pot shots', as the subject of this thread is "Tipping in Roatan"
It's amazing on this web board how fast certain individuals have been about slamming me personally when I am just expressing my opinion and have not directed 'cannon fire' personally on them.
I guess that says a lot about people today and how quick they are to judge others.
Don, if you ever visit India or Nepal hope you bring alot of business pens.
You seem pretty quick when it comes to judging people, and even quicker when judging a person's character on how much they tip. So I guess all my mates in Australia and New Zealand are 'cheepos' ? I can take one look at your Profile (photo) and make a judgment about you as well, but I won't stoop to personal 'pot shots', as the subject of this thread is "Tipping in Roatan"
It's amazing on this web board how fast certain individuals have been about slamming me personally when I am just expressing my opinion and have not directed 'cannon fire' personally on them.
I guess that says a lot about people today and how quick they are to judge others.
Don, if you ever visit India or Nepal hope you bring alot of business pens.
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Damselfish
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Hmmm, what is "Get out an travel, it will do you some good"
I certainly agree that one shouldn't tip if it is not the local custom. I have not been to Roatan, and don't know what the custom is there. If the custom is to not tip, than you shouldn't have even left what you did. If that's not the custom, bringing up the point that it's the custom other places is not relevant. After all, as you say, the subject is "Tipping in Roatan."
It's definitely time to unsubscribe from this thread...
jhelmuth
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tboxcar,
It really only comes down to this...
You want to influence others to tip "appropriately" according to a standard that you feel is acceptable. Fine. You've suggested it, and we reject it. As long as your conscience doesn't nag at you, you'll have no objection if we decide for ourselves what is appropriate (since we allow you that freedom as well).
I can't leave this post without justifying my own philosophy on tipping in 3rd world countries...
I have been one of the fortunate few who inhabit the earth in a country that affords me the ability to earn more in a week than most see in a year. When I consider that, as I observe the unfavorable conditions and life that these people are born to, I thank God for his blessings he has seen fit to bestow upon me and try to impart some of my wealth to those who are not as fortunate as I. It may not be much in my eyes (15-20% of the services/goods I am charged for), but I do feel that I am acting as a good citizen to extend my gratitude and thanks in a way that will help them improve their lives. To be honest, I usually regret that I didn't do more. They may or may not remember me - but that is not the point. They share their life and beautiful country with me. I want them to enjoy that time spent and if there are positive changes from that - great. I think we all realize deep down inside that we are all connected to one another in some way. I think that is why it makes a great deal of sense to share. They share their wealth (diving, time, etc.) with me, and I return the favor as best I can. If you don't get it - no big deal. I don't hold you accountable to my standards or opinions. But please extend me the same courtesy.
It really only comes down to this...
You want to influence others to tip "appropriately" according to a standard that you feel is acceptable. Fine. You've suggested it, and we reject it. As long as your conscience doesn't nag at you, you'll have no objection if we decide for ourselves what is appropriate (since we allow you that freedom as well).
I can't leave this post without justifying my own philosophy on tipping in 3rd world countries...
I have been one of the fortunate few who inhabit the earth in a country that affords me the ability to earn more in a week than most see in a year. When I consider that, as I observe the unfavorable conditions and life that these people are born to, I thank God for his blessings he has seen fit to bestow upon me and try to impart some of my wealth to those who are not as fortunate as I. It may not be much in my eyes (15-20% of the services/goods I am charged for), but I do feel that I am acting as a good citizen to extend my gratitude and thanks in a way that will help them improve their lives. To be honest, I usually regret that I didn't do more. They may or may not remember me - but that is not the point. They share their life and beautiful country with me. I want them to enjoy that time spent and if there are positive changes from that - great. I think we all realize deep down inside that we are all connected to one another in some way. I think that is why it makes a great deal of sense to share. They share their wealth (diving, time, etc.) with me, and I return the favor as best I can. If you don't get it - no big deal. I don't hold you accountable to my standards or opinions. But please extend me the same courtesy.
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Hmmm, what is "Get out an travel, it will do you some good"
So Damselfish you consider the advice to travel a personal attack? or what? I was just suggesting that traveling to exotic foreign places opens up ones eyes to what really goes on in the World, rather than sitting around and getting all your info. from CNN.
Back to your statement quote
I have not been to Roatan, and don't know what the custom is there
But you have written 3 or 4 post on this thread, and I assumed you had been to Roatan, and had a clue what we were talking about, and now your telling me to find a new thread!! Hmmm, just what do you guys smoke in Boston!!!
So Damselfish you consider the advice to travel a personal attack? or what? I was just suggesting that traveling to exotic foreign places opens up ones eyes to what really goes on in the World, rather than sitting around and getting all your info. from CNN.
Back to your statement quote
I have not been to Roatan, and don't know what the custom is there
But you have written 3 or 4 post on this thread, and I assumed you had been to Roatan, and had a clue what we were talking about, and now your telling me to find a new thread!! Hmmm, just what do you guys smoke in Boston!!!
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