Thinking I might be underweight....

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Jon-boi

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Right so there's a chance for my first proper dive (not one of the OW dives) tomorrow. I have been and got my kit sorted at the LDS but when I came away I thought of two things....i think when the weights were done I might be a bit light by perhaps 4lbs...and I have this thought that althougth weights are in the box I don't ever remember sorting out a belt......okay i am thinking 4lbs is too much to lose right now (complete novice) so I'm gonna float instead of diving....:(

Okay, so the nerves are a little on-edge and I guess whatever the moral is I should have re-checked everything to satisfy myself. So looks like I will have to phone the LDS tomorrow and sound like a muppet and ask to check for the belt and correct weights....:(

...and I bet the weather closes in and it'll be no dive after all that anyway! LOL
 
Is this all new stuff? If so how do you know how much weight you need? If you have a bunch of new gear you should definately do a weight check.

If its rental stuff that you used in your OW dives then I would definately call and make sure you have the same amount of weight. No reason to make changes on your first post-cert dive. I wouldn't call you a muppet just a concerned diver.

Hope the weather is good and enjoy your first post cert dive! Its a wonderful thing.
 
Jon-boi...you won't be able to determine whether you are under or overweighted until you actually get into the water and do a buoyancy check. You should be at eye level with the surface with an empty BC, holding a normal breath and ideally a half empty tank. But You will still be ok with a full tank. You may have to add or delete weights as necessary which would ideally be done in shallower water...or a pool. Just remember fresh water weighs 1 kg/liter and salt water 1.03kg/liter so if you do a buoyancy check in a pool you will have to adjust for the weight of salt water.
 
Thanks for the replies. This is first post-cert dive in the same gear as the OW dives - so going on the bouyancy checks from those dives (and my logbook) I have a good idea of what I need right now......sorry didn't really make this clear in my first post.
 
Hey Jon Boi,

I had huge problems with figuring out the weights too. Always take a couple of extra weights with you so that If you can't descend you can add on and at least not miss the dive.

My second ocean dive ever, was done in a different wet suit from the first one (single 5mm to a double 7mm as I dive in very cold water) and I just couldn't descend no matter what. I refused not to dive as I was soooo looking forward to it.

Luckily I had a very helpfull DM with me who simply pulled me down to the bottom, showed me to hold on to the kelp and loaded my BC with rocks.

Probably not what should be done - but just as effective.

Happy Diving

Blueflipper
 
so at the end of a dive where you've had to donate air to an out of air buddy who's regulator malfunctioned and your tank is less than half full, instead of making a nice controlled swim, you find yourself positively buoyant and struggling to stay together on an E-ticked ride?

Sorry to be contrary, but if you are going to do a buoyancy check I like to recommend my students do it with low tank (I'd give a specific PSI, but there are so many tanks in use these days that it can mean many things), and be able to hold a controlled position at 5' with all the air out of BCD and/or drysuit.

You never want to be so heavy that at the deepest point of our dive (I'm taking into account suit compression) with all your gear that you can't "swim" yourself to shallower depth (where suit buoyancy will start being helpful again) if you drop your weight belt.

You never want to be so light that you are a cork halfway through your dive and putting rocks and cinder blocks in your pockets on the way up the slope.

Many instructors overweight so they don't have over excited BCD happy bubble babies bouncing all over, but also so that when they say "let all the air out of your BCD and STAY PUT" the student does so. This is not my philosopy. The problem is teaching proper neutral buoyancy and control of 'self' while weightless can be hard to teach if you have only 2 pool sessions. better to park the students on the bottom on their knees and use that time teaching air sharing and safety drills if that's all you've got. they sometimes overweight because they are starting with "less full' tanks (student tanks with hot fills) also expect that some of you to may breath the tank down lower than others as it can be hard to get a feel for your air consumption (unless you are a super hoover) in the pool sessions (even harder if you only have one or two sessions) so it's just easier to start with a "few extra pounds".

4 lbs can also be the difference in the tank they may have given you (steel vs aluminum).

I always tell students to re-check their weight needs periodically in the first dive or so out of class, and then the next 10-15 dives, especially if they are using new/different gear. You may find that you can drop even more than 4 lbs if you were overweighted during class. As you get more comfortable, your breathing pattern settles down and you have less of a tendancy to breath off the "top" of your lungs (and/or take big breaths) as your breathing becomes closer in tidal volume to your topside breathing, your weight needs may decrease as well.


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Jon-boi...you won't be able to determine whether you are under or overweighted until you actually get into the water and do a buoyancy check. You should be at eye level with the surface with an empty BC, holding a normal breath and ideally a half empty tank. But You will still be ok with a full tank. You may have to add or delete weights as necessary which would ideally be done in shallower water...or a pool. Just remember fresh water weighs 1 kg/liter and salt water 1.03kg/liter so if you do a buoyancy check in a pool you will have to adjust for the weight of salt water.
 
Thanks for the replies some interesting views and opinions there - its this diversity that makes diving such a rich experience.

I did have the weight on my log book but got lost converting from kgs to lbs! Anyway, called up shop and got it sorted. Felt like a good dive this evening by the way (even if I still don't like getting back up the shore). Hey, first dive after the checkouts! Yay!
 

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