Jpsexton has continued his journey to AOW this past weekend. He practiced and observed the differences in carrying a slung bottle and worked on shooting a bag. He is aware of how each change of equipment can affect balance and trim UW. He also learned how additional activities or tasking can affect situational awarenes and bouyancy control. He presented his dive plan based on NDL's and and gas management concepts related to SAC rates etc, etc. Next Sunday he will put his deep dive plan into action!!
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jpsexton
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I was pretty surprised how much the slung bottle affected my bouyancy. I thought I was getting things pretty dialed in untill I got in the water with the bottle. It was like taking several steps backward.
crpntr133
lost, even with a compass
Kinda like changing from an AL80 to a LP85. That stell isn't as fogiving as the AL. I love my LP's but 4 dives isn't enough to get the trim dialed back in.
crpntr133
lost, even with a compass
I said something similar in one of the other threads. It was AOW with a bit of rescue, and it looks like deco/tech, thrown in. I agree my AOW was a total waste of time.
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Yes, this was some of the stuff we covered as it relates to the deep dive. We went into a little bit about decompression theory, deep stops, gas planning based on SAC rates while incorporating the concept of rock bottom. From this JP learned that an AL80 is a marginal gas supply for a dive in the 120 to 130 foot range. JP also has a SAC rate that could allow him to exceed an NDL at such depths with an AL80 so we covered some basic concepts of contingency deco stops which as JP noted are on the NAUI tables. Similar info is referred to on the PADI and SSI tables.
Before Sundays dive JP will be telling me more about deepstops and nitrogen narcosis as parrt of his homework. Not to mention what issues he'll have to deal with during this dive.
Before Sundays dive JP will be telling me more about deepstops and nitrogen narcosis as parrt of his homework. Not to mention what issues he'll have to deal with during this dive.
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crpntr133 and hoosier,crpntr133:
Think about your AOW courses for a minute. Surely there was something you learned or improved by taking the course. Sometimes those lessons aren't self evident initially but in the long run they improved or enhanced your diving in some way.
In some cases the AOW is pretty much a canned course in which there are no real specific expectations. In such cases it often becomes a matter of what you take away from what was done. As noted earlier, sometimes you aren't really aware of what you took away from the course.
In JP's case, we exchanged several PM's about what JP wanted to get from his AOW course. Then we did a couple of assessment dives and JP took the NAUI OW written exam(unannounced
). From all this info we set up a course that met his needs and desire to have a challenging course.
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jbd,
I don't think you got what we said. Based on my AOW expereince, if my LDS could cover 10% of what you are doing on your AOW class, I wouldn't be pissed off. My AOW dives were 16 min or 17 min. I am wondering what you can teach within 16 or 17 min. period. I was asked to go to FL to complete 60ft deep diving. LOL~~
Of course, I met many good local instructors, too. But, there are many kinds of instructors, either good or moron
I don't think you got what we said. Based on my AOW expereince, if my LDS could cover 10% of what you are doing on your AOW class, I wouldn't be pissed off. My AOW dives were 16 min or 17 min. I am wondering what you can teach within 16 or 17 min. period. I was asked to go to FL to complete 60ft deep diving. LOL~~
Of course, I met many good local instructors, too. But, there are many kinds of instructors, either good or moron
jbd:crpntr133 and hoosier,
Think about your AOW courses for a minute. Surely there was something you learned or improved by taking the course. Sometimes those lessons aren't self evident initially but in the long run they improved or enhanced your diving in some way.
In some cases the AOW is pretty much a canned course in which there are no real specific expectations. In such cases it often becomes a matter of what you take away from what was done. As noted earlier, sometimes you aren't really aware of what you took away from the course.
In JP's case, we exchanged several PM's about what JP wanted to get from his AOW course. Then we did a couple of assessment dives and JP took the NAUI OW written exam(unannounced
crpntr133
lost, even with a compass
I know I want to go back to Mermet, I did get that out of my AOW. I also got that the LDS doesn't listen when you tell them you want to do the dry suit part. I won't get on my soap box again about this class. This is THE reason why I won't be taking rescue from this shop. I have had two classes that were pretty much bare bones and I don't want one of the most important classes to be the same.
crpntr133:
WT and Wally ... I had a similar experience. I did AOW, Nitrox and PPB from one of the shops in Indy (that will go un-named). Very, very poor classes. I will NOT take another class from them. I will be doing rescue and probably 2-4 more specialties next year and I'm shopping around long and hard to make sure the instructors will be good. I'll travel out of state if I have to. I'm sick of wasting my money just to get a card. I want instruction to help me become a better diver, not to get a stupid card.
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