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The Descartes was a fish thread gone bad...
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I am truly embarrassed at what some of you posted. Some of you who clamour the loudest that this board has gone "downhill" because of the non-diving/bodily function related posts have consumed a metric butte ton of bandwidth over pure drivel. You have generated crud that goes far beyond pee, poop and farts! Go figure!
If you want a board that will not distract you with fun and frivolity, then what are you still doing here? It's like the guy who attends church and still frequents cat houses. It doesn't make sense.
Now I am not asking anyone to leave, but I am asking you to stop hijacking threads so you can tell all of us how you hate it here. If you hate our board, then please leave. If you get something out of it, then please stay. If you want to get into a pissing contest about which board is better, then again... please leave! If you have CONSTRUCTIVE criticism or a legitimate gripe then please choose the proper forum and START A NEW THREAD! If you don't like someone, no one else needs to know. Use your PM for that.
As for us having no Scuba related threads... you GOTS to be kidding! There is a ton of discussion going on. You just need to open your eyes to it. But, if you don't like humor, then please stay out of the humor section. If you don't like threads about bodily fluids, then you probably shouldn't read one that asks if you pee in your suit. If it doesn't suit you, then please keep looking for something that will. Good luck, and I am sorry we couldn't fulfill your needs here.
And please... PLEASE don't ask for perfect moderators. If you do then all of us will have to give up our plush jobs with our cool private parking spaces. We make mistakes and I am sure that a few of you will point out what piss poor job of splitting the threads I did. Or that I shouldn't have done it. Or that I am singling YOU out. Don't bother as I feel confident that I did my best and if that is not enough for you, then toughie kaboombas.
If you want a board that will not distract you with fun and frivolity, then what are you still doing here? It's like the guy who attends church and still frequents cat houses. It doesn't make sense.
Now I am not asking anyone to leave, but I am asking you to stop hijacking threads so you can tell all of us how you hate it here. If you hate our board, then please leave. If you get something out of it, then please stay. If you want to get into a pissing contest about which board is better, then again... please leave! If you have CONSTRUCTIVE criticism or a legitimate gripe then please choose the proper forum and START A NEW THREAD! If you don't like someone, no one else needs to know. Use your PM for that.
As for us having no Scuba related threads... you GOTS to be kidding! There is a ton of discussion going on. You just need to open your eyes to it. But, if you don't like humor, then please stay out of the humor section. If you don't like threads about bodily fluids, then you probably shouldn't read one that asks if you pee in your suit. If it doesn't suit you, then please keep looking for something that will. Good luck, and I am sorry we couldn't fulfill your needs here.
And please... PLEASE don't ask for perfect moderators. If you do then all of us will have to give up our plush jobs with our cool private parking spaces. We make mistakes and I am sure that a few of you will point out what piss poor job of splitting the threads I did. Or that I shouldn't have done it. Or that I am singling YOU out. Don't bother as I feel confident that I did my best and if that is not enough for you, then toughie kaboombas.
It appears to me that some of the board members must be on holidays and their 10 yr olds are now impersonating them on the board....What a bunch of drival...childish BS...
that some want to take their toys and go home as well. I think their current actions are even more childish than their former ones. They can sure dish out criticism, but are not open to taking any. Too bad.
What is going on here lately??? Snuggle, Scoobiedoo, Wreckwriter... kiss and make up!!!!
No more snacks for you guys... Now, clean up this mess!!!!
No more snacks for you guys... Now, clean up this mess!!!!
It's always amazing to me when I hear something like...
Especially when alot of those looking for a new place are the very ones who caused the most trouble and dissention, making people want to leave in the first place. And the forums they caused the most trouble in are the very subjects they say they don't want to deal with anyway. No one made them read every post in every thread on SB.
I've been to the new Deco Stop forum and it's very nice. Seems those who had no manners here are nice and friendly over there. I'm glad you've found a place you like. And following Pete's train of thought, I hope you stay there.
And KKM is correct, mention or discussion the new forum is in no way an offense here. The more the merrier. People find different things in different places. I wish them all good luck and happy posting.
Especially when alot of those looking for a new place are the very ones who caused the most trouble and dissention, making people want to leave in the first place. And the forums they caused the most trouble in are the very subjects they say they don't want to deal with anyway. No one made them read every post in every thread on SB.
I've been to the new Deco Stop forum and it's very nice. Seems those who had no manners here are nice and friendly over there. I'm glad you've found a place you like. And following Pete's train of thought, I hope you stay there.
And KKM is correct, mention or discussion the new forum is in no way an offense here. The more the merrier. People find different things in different places. I wish them all good luck and happy posting.
Shellbird,
I think you are being a little unfair by that statement. It sounds as if you are implying that everyone involved with TDS is displaying this kind of behavior.
WW can be rather outspoken and abrasive, but that is nothing new. He and I had several verbal exchanges here on S/B long before TDS ever came into existence, so I really dont think TDS is a factor in his responses.
If you have any specific examples that support the elitist/obnoxious comment, would you mind sharing them? You may do so privately if you wish.
I think this works in reverse as well. It seems that when some of the more experienced people chime in on a post their comments are not appreciated.
In a recent post that was hotly debated, I posted some very specific points that I asked for clarification on from the original poster. I also made several observations that I clearly stated were soley "my opinion."
Apparently my post ruffled the feathers of someone whom I wasn't even addressing who proceeded to call me a SOB (interesting since I'm sure he never met my mother...) a pain in the blank, and stated that all I had done is insult. I challenge anyone on this board to find a post by me where I insulted anyone or turned a debate into a personal attack.
Comments such as these are one reason why several of us have quit offering advice. It seems as if too many people are either looking at the advice as a means of circumventing proper training, or feel that everything we offer is done in a condescending manner. From my perspective, neither is the case, but YMMV.
It can be very hard for the "newbie" diver to seperate the wheat from the chaff. They dont know what they dont know, so it's often difficult to figure out who to listen to and who to ignore.
Regardless, please don't stereotype everyone who participates at TDS into the "elitist and obnoxious" category.
I will address two issues and pm you the rest:
Post pulling: I mentioned the Deco Stop, post is gone - that simple.
Obnoxious: I have supported WW and a few others for coming down hard on people. I even stated that "tough love" might be in order sometimes. But lately he is indefensible.
I apologize for the typo (or freudian slip) of you guys. I no way meant to sterotype the DECO STOP members. I was really speaking directly to WW.
And the proof of him being obnoxious was the initial reason for my reply in the first place and God knows there are many examples out there.
I guess NetDoc said it all best. Read his post, that is how I feel. And for those pms I received in concert, I wish you all well on your new site, I know you worked hard to get it together and it is great! Do I feel slighted, no, it is clearly a Tech Divers site and that is a group I do not fall into, nor expect to. I am a recreational diver, all I aspire to be. I will certainly MISS some of you but hey - I'm sure I'll see you out in the water some day.
I love this board. I am LOYAL to it because I made a lot of friends, maybe even an enemy, but I place a lot of value on SCUBABoard for all its faults. Sure, it has grown, maybe too quickly but it is where I come to find my friends in diving.
Post pulling: I mentioned the Deco Stop, post is gone - that simple.
Obnoxious: I have supported WW and a few others for coming down hard on people. I even stated that "tough love" might be in order sometimes. But lately he is indefensible.
I apologize for the typo (or freudian slip) of you guys. I no way meant to sterotype the DECO STOP members. I was really speaking directly to WW.
And the proof of him being obnoxious was the initial reason for my reply in the first place and God knows there are many examples out there.
I guess NetDoc said it all best. Read his post, that is how I feel. And for those pms I received in concert, I wish you all well on your new site, I know you worked hard to get it together and it is great! Do I feel slighted, no, it is clearly a Tech Divers site and that is a group I do not fall into, nor expect to. I am a recreational diver, all I aspire to be. I will certainly MISS some of you but hey - I'm sure I'll see you out in the water some day.
I love this board. I am LOYAL to it because I made a lot of friends, maybe even an enemy, but I place a lot of value on SCUBABoard for all its faults. Sure, it has grown, maybe too quickly but it is where I come to find my friends in diving.
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