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Tethering Policy?

Discussion in 'Public Safety Divers/Search and Rescue' started by espantoon, Feb 4, 2014.

  1. espantoon

    espantoon Public Safety Diver

    # of Dives: 100 - 199
    Location: Stewartstown, PA
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    Our Police Dive Team is undergoing some changes at the request of our Command, the main change being that they want us to be tethered full time. We currently do not dive tethered under most circumstances; usually we are always holding some sort of jack stay or up line but not hard attached. I'm looking for some training lesson plans or guidance in reference, and am interested in the professional opinions or hard facts for tethered vs. non tethered diving. Thanks!


    George,
    Baltimore, Md
     
  2. mad3654

    mad3654 Garibaldi

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  3. espantoon

    espantoon Public Safety Diver

    # of Dives: 100 - 199
    Location: Stewartstown, PA
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    Thank you! I will pass this on to my command, and see of we can get any of my guys into any courses this year.
     
  4. salth2owannabe

    salth2owannabe Barracuda

    # of Dives: I just don't log dives
    Location: Idaho
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    Hard and fast rules via policy don't "always" address the need.
    I think it depends on the situation and every one tends to be different, as you know.
    In a lot of dives we utilize a line that we hang on to, but not attached to, because it fits with the search patterns we use.
    If the situation dictates a line can be attached.
    We often dive strong current and low/no vis.
    As a diver I don't like to be "hard attached" if I can avoid it , because it's my decision to easily release the line if need be.
    I don't know if I've given you my opinion, but policies are usually written from a "knee jerk reaction" not necessarily common sense.
     
  5. espantoon

    espantoon Public Safety Diver

    # of Dives: 100 - 199
    Location: Stewartstown, PA
    182
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    Okay, we did the same exact thing you described; tethering when necessary for the mission, but mostly free. I agree with you about disliking having an entanglement hazard with me all the time, but this is coming from our boss to be tethered (unless I can come up with empirical evidence that supports no tether over tether). Thanks for your reply!
     
  6. salth2owannabe

    salth2owannabe Barracuda

    # of Dives: I just don't log dives
    Location: Idaho
    365
    121
    43
    If your boss dives with you and he/she feels safe with a tethered "policy" you might be fighting an uphill battle. I know if I were writing the policy I' d use wording that ultimately left it open to a decision based on the circumstances of the situation. In my opinion the decision to dive, not to dive, or how to dive ultimately falls back on the diver.
     
  7. espantoon

    espantoon Public Safety Diver

    # of Dives: 100 - 199
    Location: Stewartstown, PA
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    Unfortunately, our boss is not a diver, he oversees the entire division. I'm the Lt running the team, and I attempted to make my arguments. For now we will have to be tethered, but I'm still working on him...
     
  8. salth2owannabe

    salth2owannabe Barracuda

    # of Dives: I just don't log dives
    Location: Idaho
    365
    121
    43
    What's his agenda? Reaction to an issue/accident or dept. CYA.
    He's really tying you/your teams hands. On the water, IMHO it's ultimately still your decision, especially when you head up the team. - They going to take away your birthday :)
    In policy, words like "always, shall, never, will" don't help anyone!
    Good luck.
     
  9. espantoon

    espantoon Public Safety Diver

    # of Dives: 100 - 199
    Location: Stewartstown, PA
    182
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    I will let you know how things work out. It's still a "work in progress" as far as I'm concerned, and will continue to voice my professional opinion. Thanks again for your insight!
     
  10. salth2owannabe

    salth2owannabe Barracuda

    # of Dives: I just don't log dives
    Location: Idaho
    365
    121
    43
    Wow, you're up late on the East coast! Good luck, I hope things work out for you :) Safe Diving!
     

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