John,
You did not answer my question on the number of deaths required to make a change.
And thank you for agreeing with me that the report by DAN is not applicable to the rest of the world.
Do you really feel that is so relevant to the discussion? We know of one in Coron that probably won't be reported to DAN. There are also probably others because reports of people dying convinces people to either not dive or to not go to that location. So there is a huge incentive to not report or under report diving deaths.
Please do not misquote me. I am only saying lives will be saved. Until data is made available, we will never know how many people could be saved approximately. Surely you would agree that at least one would have been saved. Now whether that is worth it to you, I cannot say. For me it is.
You brought up the issue of dive ops in Cozumel. Well, I suspect that if all dive ops refused to take people on dives deeper than for which they were certified, a lot more people would get AOW certifications.
You did not answer my question on the number of deaths required to make a change.
I forgot to mention one other filtering factor. Andy's suggestion only relates to dives being led by a professional. How many of the dives you looked at were led by a professional? I would venture to say nearly none.
And thank you for agreeing with me that the report by DAN is not applicable to the rest of the world.
IAndy says that dozens of people are dying every year while being led beyond their training depths by DMs. Take a look through the accidents and incidents section of ScubaBoard and see how many such incidents you find. There will no doubt be a couple--but dozens a year?
Do you really feel that is so relevant to the discussion? We know of one in Coron that probably won't be reported to DAN. There are also probably others because reports of people dying convinces people to either not dive or to not go to that location. So there is a huge incentive to not report or under report diving deaths.
ISo you will then argue that those dozens a year are indeed taking place--they just aren't being reported. And you know they must be there because...because......because....
Please do not misquote me. I am only saying lives will be saved. Until data is made available, we will never know how many people could be saved approximately. Surely you would agree that at least one would have been saved. Now whether that is worth it to you, I cannot say. For me it is.
You brought up the issue of dive ops in Cozumel. Well, I suspect that if all dive ops refused to take people on dives deeper than for which they were certified, a lot more people would get AOW certifications.