TDI - Whats it all about

[BigBoB]

Here it is over two bucks a cubic foot.

 

[sweatfrog]

Look at the training materials. I did Extended Range before PADI came out with Tec Deep. Sadly disapointing, just a stepping stone. If you're already in the DM class, you can make an intellegent decision by comparing TDI's three courses (adv. nitrox, deco procedures & extended range) to PADI's one. Its a much more in-depth course.

 

[wedivebc]

Look at the training materials. I did Extended Range before PADI came out with Tec Deep. Sadly disapointing, just a stepping stone. If you're already in the DM class, you can make an intellegent decision by comparing TDI's three courses (adv. nitrox, deco procedures & extended range) to PADI's one. Its a much more in-depth course.

I for one don't feel a new "tech" diver is ready for extended range. They should split it up and give a diver a chance to gain some experience.

 

[Mako Mark]

Just curious....has anyone besides myself taken the dsat tech deep class. .

All knowlege is good, I have taught the DSAT program, but ended up only certifying the student to apprentice tec, mainly on attitude.

The DSAT course was a good idea, and they did a good job on the materials, but basically the same year that it came out was the year that most technical diving gurus sat down and agreed that deep air is pasé. If they had brought it out five years before, it would have made a far greater impact.

 

[DA Aquamaster]

I for one don't feel a new "tech" diver is ready for extended range. They should split it up and give a diver a chance to gain some experience.

I agree, I think there is some real benefit in learning at a little slower pace and putting a lot of actual open water experience using the techniques learned in between successive classes.

There are enough problems with "patch" divers already, the PADI approach justs lets them do it all in one course.

 

[sweatfrog]

I for one don't feel a new "tech" diver is ready for extended range. They should split it up and give a diver a chance to gain some experience.

Experience for new tec divers differ for each agency and the prereqs for the Tec Deep course are quite extensive. Gaining experience is like taking Intro to Cave and moving into Full Cave right away. Do the student and Inst both feel ready or should some time be spent diving the gear and doing an attitude adjustment first. The more dives you do in the equipment you need for specific missions, the better you get; if you use your brain.

The Adv. Nitrox and Deco Theory doesn't seem to be the best place to split these courses up like the Tec Apprentice and Tec Deep courses do. Unfortunately, some divers will never accomplish this level of expertise, academically, physically and most important, attitudinally.

People are saying that with the advent of trimix, deep air is passe. I wish that were true, but I travel too many places where helium isn't available for dives I want to do.

 

[wedivebc]

Experience for new tec divers differ for each agency and the prereqs for the Tec Deep course are quite extensive. Gaining experience is like taking Intro to Cave and moving into Full Cave right away. Do the student and Inst both feel ready or should some time be spent diving the gear and doing an attitude adjustment first. The more dives you do in the equipment you need for specific missions, the better you get; if you use your brain.

The Adv. Nitrox and Deco Theory doesn't seem to be the best place to split these courses up like the Tec Apprentice and Tec Deep courses do. Unfortunately, some divers will never accomplish this level of expertise, academically, physically and most important, attitudinally.

People are saying that with the advent of trimix, deep air is passe. I wish that were true, but I travel too many places where helium isn't available for dives I want to do.

I agree the adv nitrox/deco procedures is a bad split. The tech deep course is IMHO too much too soon for a new "tech" diver. I am not referring to cost either. I think a program like AN/DP combined or better yet ANDI Technical Safeair Diver (TSD) is a good intro where a diver can learn the basic skills and then hone those skills before venturing into the abyss. The TSD course is now available using normoxic trimix if required or desired, but like you say, in some places you want to think long and hard before forking out 3 EU for 1 cuft of helium.

 

[StSomewhere]

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[sweatfrog]

The tech deep course is IMHO too much too soon for a new "tech" diver. I am not referring to cost either.

I'm in agreement with you on that. I'll look up the ANDI course you're talking about, it might have some merit if it gets rec divers to understand the huge differences between rec and tec gear.

 

[wedivebc]

I'm in agreement with you on that. I'll look up the ANDI course you're talking about, it might have some merit if it gets rec divers to understand the huge differences between rec and tec gear.

Look here www.andihq.com