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Missing Air Force Jet Reported Found Off Los Angeles by Searchers for W.A.S.P Gertrude Tompkins | Scuba Diving Magazine
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Captain Kyaa
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Missing Air Force Jet Reported Found Off Los Angeles by Searchers for W.A.S.P Gertrude Tompkins
September 29, 2009
The wreckage of what appears to be a missing USAF Lockheed T-33A jet trainer has been found in the ocean off Los Angeles International Airport (LAX), according to a search team that was looking for the plane of a missing World War II aviatrix. This past April, members of the UB88.ORG team, working in cooperation with Aircraftwrecks.com and the Missing Aircraft Search Team (MAST) located the Air Force wreck during a sonar search for another aircraft. The target plane was a P-51D Mustang presumed lost at sea in 1944 and piloted by Gertrude Tompkins, the last missing member of the Women Airforce Service Pilots (WASP).
According to Gary Fabian of UB88.ORG, We are able to release this information because we have just determined to a reasonable degree of certainty the identification of the T-33A plane, using part numbers and other strong evidence. We are pleased that we have possibly resolved one missing aircraft case, and think that this lends credibility to our methodology in searching for WASP Gertrude Tompkins and her Mustang. Stated MAST spokesman Lew Toulmin, Our combined search operation for Gertrude Tompkins plane is now ramping up. We are very hopeful that our team of sonar and dive experts will be able to resolve the 65-year-old Tompkins case, one of the great remaining mysteries of World War II.
Gertrude Tompkins, the only missing member of the World War II Women Airforce Service Pilots (WASP), disappeared in October 1944 in her P-51-D Mustang, and is now the object of an intense underwater search by the Missing Aircraft Search Team and other experts.
Read more on the Search for Gertrude Tompkins' missing P-51 Mustang
According to Aircraftwrecks.com spokesman Pat Macha, In the months following the discovery, a series of dives were conducted at the site in order to gather photographic evidence to help aid in the identification of the plane. A diver observed a stamped part number on a single piece of wreckage that was just confirmed by Lockheed-Martin as having been used on a T-33. The remains of an Allison J-33 turbo jet engine, also observed at the site, is consistent with the missing trainer, according to Macha.
Subsequent investigation revealed reports of a U.S. Air Force T-33A lost from Los Angeles International Airport on October 15, 1955 with two crewmen aboard. The aircraft was presumed lost at sea shortly after takeoff. This is the only reported loss of a T-33 in the area, according to Macha and Fabian. Macha stated that, It is significant that the wreck is missing its nose wheel. This is consistent with the T-33 accident report, which described the nose wheel as having washed up on shore a few days later.
Kendall Raine, an investment banker and technical diver who worked on the UB 88 submarine case and who dove on the T-33 noted that, At first we thought this was a piston-engined plane from before World War II. There was very little of the aluminum fuselage left perhaps chemicals in the bay dumped in the 1940s and 1950s, before there was an EPA, corroded it away. But research on the tire size, a part from the feed mechanism for the .50 caliber machine gun, and the nozzle from the Allison turbofan engine helped us focus on the T-33.
The first diver on the T-33 site was Captain Kyaa Day Heller, who was aboard Sundiver II the day the site was found. She states, Captain Ray Arntz and I were hopping targets, looking for Gertrude Tompkins plane, and I happened to get the third target. I slid down the line, and the visibility conditions were great. At the bottom I saw some parts and the prominent engine. I realized immediately it was an aircraft wreck and a gravesite -- it had that kind of feel to it. It was in deep water and very quiet. It is a privilege to do this sort of thing. Ive been looking for Gertrude for almost two years now, and it would be great to find her plane and give her the recognition that she and the WASP pilots deserve. Heller is a divemaster and business manager with Sundiver International and holds a 50 ton USCG Master boat captains license.
Macha noted that all information on the T-33A has been turned over to the military Joint Prisoner of War/Missing In Action Command (JPAC) and the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. Further investigation may be conducted to search for possible human remains. Notification of next of kin is now underway.
Here's another write up for your enjoyment:
Missing Air Force Jet Reported Found Off Los Angeles by Searchers for W.A.S.P Gertrude Tompkins | Scuba Diving Magazine
Cheers,
Captain Kyaa
Text:
Missing Air Force Jet Reported Found Off Los Angeles by Searchers for W.A.S.P Gertrude Tompkins
September 29, 2009
The wreckage of what appears to be a missing USAF Lockheed T-33A jet trainer has been found in the ocean off Los Angeles International Airport (LAX), according to a search team that was looking for the plane of a missing World War II aviatrix. This past April, members of the UB88.ORG team, working in cooperation with Aircraftwrecks.com and the Missing Aircraft Search Team (MAST) located the Air Force wreck during a sonar search for another aircraft. The target plane was a P-51D Mustang presumed lost at sea in 1944 and piloted by Gertrude Tompkins, the last missing member of the Women Airforce Service Pilots (WASP).
According to Gary Fabian of UB88.ORG, We are able to release this information because we have just determined to a reasonable degree of certainty the identification of the T-33A plane, using part numbers and other strong evidence. We are pleased that we have possibly resolved one missing aircraft case, and think that this lends credibility to our methodology in searching for WASP Gertrude Tompkins and her Mustang. Stated MAST spokesman Lew Toulmin, Our combined search operation for Gertrude Tompkins plane is now ramping up. We are very hopeful that our team of sonar and dive experts will be able to resolve the 65-year-old Tompkins case, one of the great remaining mysteries of World War II.
Gertrude Tompkins, the only missing member of the World War II Women Airforce Service Pilots (WASP), disappeared in October 1944 in her P-51-D Mustang, and is now the object of an intense underwater search by the Missing Aircraft Search Team and other experts.
Read more on the Search for Gertrude Tompkins' missing P-51 Mustang
According to Aircraftwrecks.com spokesman Pat Macha, In the months following the discovery, a series of dives were conducted at the site in order to gather photographic evidence to help aid in the identification of the plane. A diver observed a stamped part number on a single piece of wreckage that was just confirmed by Lockheed-Martin as having been used on a T-33. The remains of an Allison J-33 turbo jet engine, also observed at the site, is consistent with the missing trainer, according to Macha.
Subsequent investigation revealed reports of a U.S. Air Force T-33A lost from Los Angeles International Airport on October 15, 1955 with two crewmen aboard. The aircraft was presumed lost at sea shortly after takeoff. This is the only reported loss of a T-33 in the area, according to Macha and Fabian. Macha stated that, It is significant that the wreck is missing its nose wheel. This is consistent with the T-33 accident report, which described the nose wheel as having washed up on shore a few days later.
Kendall Raine, an investment banker and technical diver who worked on the UB 88 submarine case and who dove on the T-33 noted that, At first we thought this was a piston-engined plane from before World War II. There was very little of the aluminum fuselage left perhaps chemicals in the bay dumped in the 1940s and 1950s, before there was an EPA, corroded it away. But research on the tire size, a part from the feed mechanism for the .50 caliber machine gun, and the nozzle from the Allison turbofan engine helped us focus on the T-33.
The first diver on the T-33 site was Captain Kyaa Day Heller, who was aboard Sundiver II the day the site was found. She states, Captain Ray Arntz and I were hopping targets, looking for Gertrude Tompkins plane, and I happened to get the third target. I slid down the line, and the visibility conditions were great. At the bottom I saw some parts and the prominent engine. I realized immediately it was an aircraft wreck and a gravesite -- it had that kind of feel to it. It was in deep water and very quiet. It is a privilege to do this sort of thing. Ive been looking for Gertrude for almost two years now, and it would be great to find her plane and give her the recognition that she and the WASP pilots deserve. Heller is a divemaster and business manager with Sundiver International and holds a 50 ton USCG Master boat captains license.
Macha noted that all information on the T-33A has been turned over to the military Joint Prisoner of War/Missing In Action Command (JPAC) and the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. Further investigation may be conducted to search for possible human remains. Notification of next of kin is now underway.
