Suunto HelO2 first impressions

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boulderjohn

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I don't have much experience using computers for decompression diving, having mostly used either V-Planner or Ratio Deco for my planning. I had some recent experience with the Suunto HelO2 that surprised me. Due to circumstances too weird to get into here, I will soon own one of these, and assuming that some day I may want to operate it outside of gauge mode, I would like to hear from some HelO2 veterans in relation to my first impressions.

The situation was that my buddy and I planned a dive using V-Planner. He had just gotten a new HelO2, and he wanted to take it along for the ride, figuring we could just stay a the last stop a little longer if we needed to to clear it. Well, that didn't work. As we started the ascent, he let me know that he wanted to follow the HelO2 plan, and I later learned it was because he was afraid to tick it off any because of what he was seeing in terms of ascent time on its screen. The V-Planner schedule was for about 28 minutes of deco total, and it would have been about the same if we had used Ratio Deco. Following his HelO2, we did 52 minutes of deco! Everyone else on the dive was out of their gear and relaxing when the captain sent the DM down to see if we were OK. My buddy said he had everything set to the most liberal settings.

A couple of days later he said he had played with the settings some more and wanted to try it again. Just before entering the water, we were told we needed for various reasons to aim for about 60 minutes of run time, which is less than we had planned, so he said he would start the ascent when his Suunto told him we had 30 minutes of ascent time. He did, which took us off the wreck must sooner than originally planned, but it didn't turn out that way. Even though he said he followed every step in our ascent, he ended up with a 72 minute run time.

The next day he said he played with it some more, but he said we would stick to the V-Planner schedule even if it violated the computer. We did follow the V-Planner schedule. The HelO2 was so angry because of ceiling violations that it went into error/gauge mode while we were doing our 20 foot stop.

I read Mark Powell's review of the computer, and it seems like my friend must be doing something wrong. How can a computer be so totally different from other algorithms? How can a computer shut you down in the middle of an ascent because it doesn't like what you are doing? Shouldn't it assume there is a reason you are violating it and keep computing on your behalf?
 
John,

one thing all Suuntos I have seen and dived so far do not like is if you stay outside their decompression zone and/or come up to slow for their liking. Can you download the dives and see what the TC gave you as the bottom at each stop? I.e. if it gives you 25 feet and you do your hang at 30ft until it clears for 20ft, it f***s you over and adds deco time.

Jürgen
 
I dive with someone that has a HelO2 (RGBM), and have not found the deco times to be much different than a similarly configured Uemis (Buhlmann ZH-L8), Liquivision X1 (VPM) or Oceanic OC1 (Buhlmann ZHL-16C ). I suspect that your buddy has buggered up the settings. In predive planning, it is fairly easy to develop a consistent dive plans between these algorithms by adjusting the conservatism or gradient factors. On a recent dive, where I had a nearly identical profile and gas composition as my buddy, we only had a one minute difference in deco time between the HelO2 and Uemis.
 
The Suunto DC's penalise you heavily for skipping deep stops, fast ascent rates, short SI and violating ceilings. The reasons are obvious and support the way Suunto calculate the profiles. If you stick to the prescribed dive profiles there will be very little (around 10% - that is 6 min extra for every hour of deco) difference between Suunto Technical RGBM, V- Planner or GAP. If 10% is an issue for you, get something else. I like having additional safety margins. I have also dived my Helo2 following a run cut from GAP without DC warning/issues, only had to add safety stop time (3min) to my last stop.

One "issue" I have with the Helo2 is the way it calculates decompression dives using only AIR (no deco gasses). I agree that this type of dive should not be done, but some people do. It seems that the software (Technical RGBM) works better with multiple gasses and are very close to what you get with GAP/RGBM.

The debate on what works best will rage for decades to come. Understand deco, know what is safe and do what works for you. I like to stop every 3m (GAP style) and my Helo2 have never penalised me for this.
 
I dive with someone that has a HelO2 (RGBM), and have not found the deco times to be much different than a similarly configured Uemis (Buhlmann ZH-L8), Liquivision X1 (VPM) or Oceanic OC1 (Buhlmann ZHL-16C ). I suspect that your buddy has buggered up the settings. In predive planning, it is fairly easy to develop a consistent dive plans between these algorithms by adjusting the conservatism or gradient factors. On a recent dive, where I had a nearly identical profile and gas composition as my buddy, we only had a one minute difference in deco time between the HelO2 and Uemis.

When I enter the parameters of my extremer dives into the Suunto dive sim I found out that I'd be pretty dead. I did that when I thought about buying the Helo2 myself, and decided against it then. The dives I used were done with ZH-L8 or 16. So maybe in some depth/time combinations the algorithms are more alike than in others? I didn't compare VPM in too much detail, though.
 
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