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@blinkswiler: SSI ≠ SDI
Sufficient OW training?
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[QUOTEscubadiver888
]The minimum pool skills are:
Diving system assembly and disassembly
Equipment inspection (at water's edge)
Entries and exits
Proper weighting
Mouthpiece clearing - snorkel and regulator
Regulator/snorkel exchanges at the surface
Controlled descents and ascents
Underwater swimming
Mask-clearing, including removal and replacement
Underwater exercises - with and without mask
Buddy-system techniques
Underwater and surface buoyancy control
Underwater problem-solving (regulator recovery/retrieval, etc)
Surface-snorkel swimming with full diving system
Surface operation of the quick release/emergency function of the weight system
Underwater removal and replacement of scuba system
Underwater removal and replacement of the weight/ballast system
Out-of-air emergency alternatives, including at least one dependent procedure and one independent procedure
Equipment care and maintenance (at water's edge)
[/QUOTE]
We did 8 of the 19 skills that are listed. We did 3 boat dives on Saturday and 1 shore dive on Sunday.
[QUOTETSandM
]The comment that "with no air in our BC's and 7 mil wetsuits, we had to kick like crazy to ascend," tells me that whatever training you had, it was too rushed or too superficial to give you the basic concept of diving, which is neutral buoyancy. [/QUOTE]
The reason we didn't add air to our BC's was during our OW training we were told not to add air to ascend. That is true, but obviously we weren't given the rest of the training needed for proper buoyancy.
[QUOTEtstormdiver
]The fact you are asking the question, sort of answers your question. From your description, it doesn't sound like any standards were broken in your training, but it doesn't sound like it very in depth either. If you are uncomfortable in your skills, you may look for another instructor who will go through with you some more, until you are comfortable & confident that you can plan & execute your own dive with a diver of equal or greater experience. [/QUOTE]
My question was if the instructor taught the course per SDI standards. After reading the replies here we I know we were shortchanged. We did do as you suggested and found a new instructor. This OW class was almost 4 yrs. ago and since then we have taken several classes including the rescue diver course last year. I feel we are now at the skill level we should be given our experience. We're pretty comfortable diving here in So. California & on vacation in the Carribean.
[QUOTEblinkswiler
]I'm a PADI instructor not ssi but from your description, you certainly have a case for registering a compaint with SSI for instructor performance and furthermore should. If this is the norm for this instructor, someone will eventually get hurt.[/QUOTE]
I know of other divers who had the same instructor & OW class as us. They were given the same poor training as us and it shows. It's an accident waiting to happen. The stories I could tell would make you cringe. Thanks to everyone who gave their input.
]The minimum pool skills are:
Diving system assembly and disassembly
Equipment inspection (at water's edge)
Entries and exits
Proper weighting
Mouthpiece clearing - snorkel and regulator
Regulator/snorkel exchanges at the surface
Controlled descents and ascents
Underwater swimming
Mask-clearing, including removal and replacement
Underwater exercises - with and without mask
Buddy-system techniques
Underwater and surface buoyancy control
Underwater problem-solving (regulator recovery/retrieval, etc)
Surface-snorkel swimming with full diving system
Surface operation of the quick release/emergency function of the weight system
Underwater removal and replacement of scuba system
Underwater removal and replacement of the weight/ballast system
Out-of-air emergency alternatives, including at least one dependent procedure and one independent procedure
Equipment care and maintenance (at water's edge)
[/QUOTE]
We did 8 of the 19 skills that are listed. We did 3 boat dives on Saturday and 1 shore dive on Sunday.
[QUOTETSandM
]The comment that "with no air in our BC's and 7 mil wetsuits, we had to kick like crazy to ascend," tells me that whatever training you had, it was too rushed or too superficial to give you the basic concept of diving, which is neutral buoyancy. [/QUOTE]
The reason we didn't add air to our BC's was during our OW training we were told not to add air to ascend. That is true, but obviously we weren't given the rest of the training needed for proper buoyancy.
[QUOTEtstormdiver
]The fact you are asking the question, sort of answers your question. From your description, it doesn't sound like any standards were broken in your training, but it doesn't sound like it very in depth either. If you are uncomfortable in your skills, you may look for another instructor who will go through with you some more, until you are comfortable & confident that you can plan & execute your own dive with a diver of equal or greater experience. [/QUOTE]
My question was if the instructor taught the course per SDI standards. After reading the replies here we I know we were shortchanged. We did do as you suggested and found a new instructor. This OW class was almost 4 yrs. ago and since then we have taken several classes including the rescue diver course last year. I feel we are now at the skill level we should be given our experience. We're pretty comfortable diving here in So. California & on vacation in the Carribean.
[QUOTEblinkswiler
]I'm a PADI instructor not ssi but from your description, you certainly have a case for registering a compaint with SSI for instructor performance and furthermore should. If this is the norm for this instructor, someone will eventually get hurt.[/QUOTE]
I know of other divers who had the same instructor & OW class as us. They were given the same poor training as us and it shows. It's an accident waiting to happen. The stories I could tell would make you cringe. Thanks to everyone who gave their input.
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