After doing some research and talking with our LDS we ordered a Stiletto. Everything we'd been told lead us to believe it was going to be lighter and more compact then our Ranger. It is more compact, but we put the Stilleto and the Ranger on the scale last night and they both weighed exactly the same. What's up with that? Both were size Large (although the Stiletto was a bit too snug while the Ranger fits perfect). So the Stiletto really isn't lighter then the Ranger?