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I got certified in the early eighties and learned with BP/Wings and jetfins! It makes me laugh with all the "that flameproof agency" newbie groupies on the board sometimes, when they think they have invented the wheel. I also constructed my first "poodle Jacket BCD" with my own hands as I worked a summer job in a bcd factory.
 
cancun mark:
It makes me laugh with all the "that flameproof agency" newbie groupies on the board sometimes, when they think they have invented the wheel.

I'm trying to reconcile this thread with all the posts elsewhere that decry the "dumbing down" of the training process. Once upon a time all you needed was enough cash to buy some fins, a mask and a double hose reg from Voit and you were a diver. Buddy breathing was learned by watching an episode of Sea Hunt. Now you need at least two weekends of training with a qualified instructor and a working knowledge of dive tables, etc. etc. Sounds like an overall upward trend to me...
 
derwoodwithasherwood:
I'm trying to reconcile this thread with all the posts elsewhere that decry the "dumbing down" of the training process. Once upon a time all you needed was enough cash to buy some fins, a mask and a double hose reg from Voit and you were a diver. Buddy breathing was learned by watching an episode of Sea Hunt. Now you need at least two weekends of training with a qualified instructor and a working knowledge of dive tables, etc. etc. Sounds like an overall upward trend to me...

Not my experience with the instruction.

I got my first cert in 1975 with NASDS. I decided to do a refresher course with (unnamed agency) two years ago. Did my OW and AOW. From my perspective neither of those classes added up to what I got with my one cert in '75. IMHO - now the gear has become easier and more redundant, but the overall skills at least with one agency have become far easier.
 
PhotoTJ:
This thread should have a title change.

"Back in my day..."

Since I have "converted" to the the new-fangled way of doing things, my day is today.
 
PhotoTJ:
This thread should have a title change.

"Back in my day..."

Or

"you had it lucky"


we used to live in a shoe box in middle o' road........
 
I certified (NAUI) in 1978 in Hawaii with local instructor by the name of Joe Ho while stationed there with the 25th Division. We did ALL our work in the ocean on Waikiki beach. The tanks were steel 72's with a little plastic backpack with D ring's on the straps to fasten them (no fastex buckles). You had to know how to rig the belt with a loop through the D ring so you could just pull the end and it would pop open. We used old May West vests as BC's and I still have my original mask and snorkle (can't use them, plastic and rubber is all shot). Had to take the reg out of your mouth to adjust bouyancy.

Our open water checkout dive in Haunauma Bay on Oahu included a 30' free ascent with an instructor with our reg in hand. Then swim back down and watch everyone else do it. Longest 30' of my life but a great thrill when it was done.

We too learned to breath off a tank valve (strain the water out with your teeth, Joe said) and with a regulator with no diaphram in place (toggle the valve with your finger).

Dive plan was the same as the others mentioned, set your watch when you went in the water so you know how long you were down. One of my buddies had a depth gauge and we ran off the navy tables. Did reef exits in the surf and always cut my knees on the coral, then had to douse them with peroxide so I didn't get coral poisoning. Usually made two dives in the morning and then drank beer all afternoon.

Newest technology then was an aluminum backpack with hook shaped, padded aluminum straps over your shoulders and a web waist belt. Seems to me we used to call this a Hawaiian Pack or some such thing. I remember the first time I saw a fellow with an Octo, couldn't figure what it was for as we always shared a regulator when in need. In training we once kept 10 people passing around the same regulator for 10 minutes, just for practice. That same fellow had a US Divers rig, with a HARD wing. Plastic covers with a soft bladder inside on either side of his tank. Just the latest thing from Jac Cousteau!

I LIKE the new gear that we use now. I think octos and such are a good idea and I carry a pony bottle when I dive wrecks and deep. I LOVE the drysuit technology and wouldn't be able to dive here in Michigan without it. A dryhood, and drygloves make great sense when the water is 36 degrees at depth. Backplates and wings work so well, that I wouldn't consider going back to the old jacket style rig. Dive computers are some of my favorite things as well. The new technology is really nice and makes for easy diving in all conditions.

;)
 
overexposed2X:
Not my experience with the instruction.

I got my first cert in 1975 with NASDS. I decided to do a refresher course with (unnamed agency) two years ago. Did my OW and AOW. From my perspective neither of those classes added up to what I got with my one cert in '75. IMHO - now the gear has become easier and more redundant, but the overall skills at least with one agency have become far easier.
I agree. My NASDS course was in 74 and the courses now are much easier. We did somethings we now see were not necessary, but most of it was solid training.
 
I remember my first scuba lesson. I was a JR lifeguard at a quarry lake in southern NJ (Virgina Lake). The head life guard had a scuba unit. Tank, Healthways double hose and Dacor D back pack. I traded a depth gage that was given to me for my first lesson. Told me not to hold my breath and rowed me out to the middle of the lake in the life guard boat. Before I went over he tied a rope around my waist and told me if he stopped seeing bubbles, he would pull me up with the rope and I should be OK.

Well, I survived and have been hooked ever since...Oh yeah remember my fins, Voit Viking 2 toned, a Dacor round mask and a green snorkel with a real soft mouthpiece
 
SCUBA classes were two nights a week at the downtown YMCA from 7 to 10 pm. for 6 weeks. Tuesday night was the "dry" class using the "New Science of Skin and Scuba Diving, 2nd edition". On thursday night we used the pool. If you were lucky enought to pass the written test (no multiple guess answers) and the basic techinques in the pool then next weekend we drove 100 miles to Lake Travis for a checkout dive. The scuba course seemed longer and we didn't have to depend on computers to figure out the dive table problems. Some how we all survived and 30 years later we are now called "old salts" that should go back to square one and start over because the equipment and techiques we learned are no longer acceptable. Well guys ..... 867 dives later and I'm still going strong. I have given up my Dacor Double Hose and now own a SCUBAPRO MK10. After much critism from Scubaboard members I have purchase a octopus and a new jacket. Can't wait till 2034 when the "new guys" tell the current "hot shots" that they are "Over the Hill" and need to up date their equipment and training............... I'll be laughing in Cacun using my old Scubapro stuff (if i can still get the parts for it) and starting my 2000 dive if lucky .
 

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