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SSI Letter of Referral Accepted by PADI for OW Course?

Discussion in 'Basic Scuba Discussions' started by noreuqob, Aug 19, 2014.

  1. boulderjohn

    boulderjohn Technical Instructor ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Some of the above is not true.

    From the current PADI manual, page 43:

    From the General Standards and Procedures, pages 39-40.
    There is no requirement for a manual or the completion of quizzes.
     
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  2. daniel f aleman

    daniel f aleman Loggerhead Turtle

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    If you start with PADI stay with PADI, if you start with SSI stay with SSI. Easy peasy. But, if you really need to do a referral certification, start with any other agency and finish with NAUI.
     
  3. TerryC

    TerryC Master Instructor

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    My Apologies you are obviously correct with the Padi Standards.
    In this context I was talking real world,
    If a student is going to take a Padi exam, then it follows that they need to have access to the Padi Manual, also they will need access to Padi Dive Tables or ERDPML if not using a dive computer.
    The quizzes are a great way to check the divers knowledge before taking an exam. Lets the diver experience the type of multiple choice questions they are going to need to answer before they do the actual exam.
     
  4. tursiops

    tursiops Marine Scientist and Master Instructor ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Your real world is a fantasy! :)

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  5. boulderjohn

    boulderjohn Technical Instructor ScubaBoard Supporter

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    I was certified by PADI in a resort location. I borrowed and read an SSI manual during the plane flight there. I checked it against the PADI book later, but there was pretty much no difference in the content issues--I would have passed the PADI exam easily without the PADI manual. I would have needed a review of the tables, but that's really all I would have needed.

    Lots of people have taken multiple choice exams before. The PADI exam is not likely to be the first time they have seen one. I will even bet that SSI uses them.
     
  6. String

    String Master Instructor

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    There is if you want to certify them. Part of certification after a referral is signing to state all criteria have been met (regardless of someone elses signature on previous modules done elsewhere).

    So the certifying instructor must ensure the quizzes and exams are completed before signing that form and issuing a PIC.

    You also have:-

    So to carry on with the referral they need access to a PADI manual (ok, you can library this) but its the ensure they retain a copy for reference after the course. In other words, by signing the referral form and accepting them onto the course and when filling in a PIC the certifying instructor needs to ensure they have a manual.

    The rules about no PIC without a manual as well were brought in to people skipping this part.

    TerryC is correct above.
     
  7. boulderjohn

    boulderjohn Technical Instructor ScubaBoard Supporter

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    I see. So the part where they explain the referral process from another agency is a pure lie.. WHy do you think they did that?
     
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  8. tursiops

    tursiops Marine Scientist and Master Instructor ScubaBoard Supporter

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    String is reading the IM out of context. He is applying the standards for the full course to the standards for just a referral, which are separate and explicitly stated.
     
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  9. String

    String Master Instructor

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    It's not read out of context. Its a certification requirement. Simple as that. to certify they must have met those requirements.

    Referral from another agency is to accept them on the course not to certify. To certify the standards still have to be met along with all the required parts of the certification section. There in no exception for "other agencies" making up a half course.

    It's something that comes up relatively frequently and something which has been confirmed by PADI asia several times amongst others.

    They've still got to do the Quizzes or scuba review *and* the final exam.
     
  10. Johnmpcny

    Johnmpcny Nassau Grouper

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    Thanks guys wife loves the sense of secuil


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    ---------- Post added August 23rd, 2014 at 08:44 PM ----------

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