Split from: Are you AFRAID to Post?

[Slamfire]

I'm not a mod so I probably lack wisdom in these matters but could this be moved to the instructor forum?

No way. I'm no instructor and moving it over there would cut my access to all the future entertainment this post has to offer. It'd be like having the electricity go out right in the middle of you watching an interesting movie playing on the TV.

It's kinda like watching the parents argue-not really but a little disturbing.

 

[Diver0001]

It's kinda like watching the parents argue-not really but a little disturbing.

Oh man. The thought of Pete and Wayne being my parents just makes me want to run away from home! LOL :rofl:

 

[Diver0001]

If it is, it shouldn't be. There are quite a few more PADI defenders here than those critical of PADI. The vast majority either have no opinion or don't care one way or the other.

You know, Walter, I'm not sure that's entirely accurate. I think a lot more "mainstream" instructors would be willing to voice opinions about things they see as worth improving if the discussion wasn't so polarized.

It's really been turned into a red-alert issue where one could easily feel a need to pick a side.... you're either for the mainstream approach or against the mainstream approach. There are extremes on both sides and they both push their POV with such force that the many instructors who would take the middle ground simply can't because if they tried both sides would feel it vindicates their position.... and it could potentially leave a person feeling completely misunderstood.

It's kind of like discussions about politics in that way.

R..

 

[Slamfire]

Well Diver0001, you do have an appropriate warning in your signature.

But on a more serious note, what is it that you have to lose when you post? You can chose to reveal as little real information about you in your profile. At the end of the day I am going diving tomorrow with no concern whatsoever given to PADI, SSI, DEMA, or whether I will get condemned because I went deeper than 100' on air. My advice to all lurkers hesitating to post would be to relax, have fun, and don't take this thing too seriously. Don't take your SB cyber-persona too seriously either. Nothing that happens here can affect me in real life. What can my argumentative counterparts do to me? Are they going to send the scuba police after me?

We got into scuba to have fun in the first place. However animated the arguing gets in here, don't let it get to your head.

 

[cdolphin]

I'm not a mod so I probably lack wisdom in these matters but could this be moved to the instructor forum? It is ironic how far we've come from the original post-almost as if we are answering the OP by example.

This thread is a "split" from the Original Post about "Are You AFRAID to post". That thread went forward too, in the "New Divers" forum.

This one is just more fun. Kinda like Nascar....more fun than watching the freeway

 

[Hank49]

This should have been called, "Are you afraid to post in training agency or training method threads".
I don't get involved in these often because it's pretty much all been said. Every now and then a new face comes along and brings up the subject and all the old hands join in again.
For me, there is the Belize and Underwater Hunting forums, among a few others. I post there without fear. It seems that this whole question is representative of a few big egos discussing training, thinking that they're the only ones having an important discussion on SB.

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

Well Diver0001, you do have an appropriate warning in your signature.

But on a more serious note, what is it that you have to lose when you post? You can chose to reveal as little real information about you in your profile. At the end of the day I am going diving tomorrow with no concern whatsoever given to PADI, SSI, DEMA, or whether I will get condemned because I went deeper than 100' on air. My advice to all lurkers hesitating to post would be to relax, have fun, and don't take this thing too seriously. Don't take your SB cyber-persona too seriously either. Nothing that happens here can affect me in real life. What can my argumentative counterparts do to me? Are they going to send the scuba police after me?

We got into scuba to have fun in the first place. However animated the arguing gets in here, don't let it get to your head.

Excellent advice! I had such a good day today. Visited a wreck in Lake Washington and experienced the best vis I've ever seen there. Saw details on this wreck I've never seen before. Best of all, I'm going back tomorrow to see an old bomber ... and I think I'll pop a wide angle lens on my camera and take it with me.

YEAH BABY! THAT'S WHY I DIVE ....

Oh ... and I made a commitment to get back into teaching, starting July 1 ... :shocked2:

... what were we talking about again ???



... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[gypsyjim]

While it does sometimes get uncomfortable, and I can understand new arrivals being a bit intimidated by some of the name calling, and rancor between various factions, I do have to admit to the occasional chumming of the waters, just to watch the feeding frenzy that ensues in a few of the threads. Provides quite a bit of reading entertainment!

And, ironically, I find that torrid cat fights can be both often very entertaining, AND occasionally quite educational. Often both sides of the discussion have very valid points, even if they refuse to see each other's POV!

There are also threads here on SB, where all this rancor and drama are not as prevalent, and newcomers are more welcome to participate, without the (or as much?) fear of flaming.

 

[The Chairman]

In many ways you are a bully. If we talked in person that would quickly stop.

Wow. Sounds like a threat! Who's the bully? This effectively ends our discussion.

bul·ly   [bool-ee] noun,plural-lies, verb,-lied, -ly·ing, adjective, interjection
–noun
1.
a blustering, quarrelsome, overbearing person who habitually badgers and intimidates smaller or weaker people.

 

[Slamfire]

Excellent advice! I had such a good day today. Visited a wreck in Lake Washington and experienced the best vis I've ever seen there. Saw details on this wreck I've never seen before. Best of all, I'm going back tomorrow to see an old bomber ... and I think I'll pop a wide angle lens on my camera and take it with me.

YEAH BABY! THAT'S WHY I DIVE ....

Oh ... and I made a commitment to get back into teaching, starting July 1 ... :shocked2:

... what were we talking about again ???



... Bob (Grateful Diver)

Thanks and congratulations on getting back to teaching. Tomorrow I'll be doing the 1 hr long "drift" dive riding the tides starting in Lookout Point and ending Whytecliff Park. I've heard about the bomber. One of this days I got to get over there and go check it out.