Solo diving after AOW ?

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Are we talking about whether its ok to solo dive in clear water down to a whole 8m?

For me that sounds like snorkelling with a spare air.

For those who decry solo diving at any time , do you ever check your gear out in the pool as a buddy team?

BartBe,

Check the conditions , if there is little current and the bottom really is only 25' why not.

Two terms that we would do well to remember apply. "personal responsibility" and "acceptable levels of risk"
 
BartBe once bubbled...
Hi All,

A little advice please... In december i'll be going to the caymans. By the place where we are staying there should be some great shore diving. The depths are no more then 12 to 25 ft and i was wondering if it is ok to do these kind of dives solo ?

Oh, for crying out loud!
 
BartBe once bubbled...
Hi All,

A little advice please... In december i'll be going to the caymans. By the place where we are staying there should be some great shore diving. The depths are no more then 12 to 25 ft and i was wondering if it is ok to do these kind of dives solo ?
The reason i ask is because my girlfriend is not diving yet and I would obviously like to do some diving while i'm there.
The shorediving idea has to do with the finances... I guess it will be a bit cheaper doing some shoredives instead of having every dive with a divshop.

By the time we get there i'll be AOW and up untill now all my dives where in the murkey waters of belgian quarrys. Very low to no visibility and i was perfectly comfortable diving those waters.

With the limited depth and the good visibility in the carribean I think it would be a bit like diving in the pool ?? So is this something i could consider doing or do you guys say... NO

So what's the advice... ??

I wouldn't advise it because:

- you need the right tools for the job. Typically you won't find appropriate solo diving gear in rental stock in the Caribbean. Furthermore, I think your gear needs to be well maintained and December is the end of the diving season there and much of the rental stuff is probably overdue for servicing about now.

- you need enough experience to have seen s*it fly and to know for sure for yourself that you will react calmly when it does. I think in your case your level of experience is probably too limited for you to have been exposed to enough ..."surprises". Obviously I'm speaking from a generalization. Don't take it personally.

- you need very good diving skills and with all due respect I don't believe most new divers have that until they get a couple of hundred dives in.

- you need to be secure in your ability to judge conditions (weather, tides, currents, surge, aquatic life etc etc etc) in relation to your experience level. These are not local dives for you and I don't know how you would be able to judge conditions without input from experienced local divers. It's a common mistake to think that it's like diving in a pool. The water may be warm and clear but the Caribbean has some really nasty currents and weather sometimes. For example, you'll be going right after the hurricane season and the visibility might be a lot worse than you expect.

- avoiding potential dive buddies in the Caymans is harder than linking up with them. If you think you have to dive solo because you can't find a buddy you might be in for a nice surprise.

R..
 
I can easily do a free ascent from 30 feet. So IMHO I would not sweat a solo at 15 - 25 feet. Unless there were some serious currents in the area.

Just remember to exhale on the way up;)

But really, if you have to ask, the answer is "NO, DON"T DO IT".
 
Regardless if it is oaky to solo dive in shallow water or not can be debated long and hard. If you do dive solo make sure you have a redundant seperate air supply and you know how to use it. Clear water can be very deceptive regarding depth and it is very easy to stray deep and not know it.

I have a solo certification but if I had a non-diving girlfriend, I would be wanting to share all of these adventures with her. When you are diving solo and see something really cool, who are you going to share it with? If you are snorkeling with her and you both see something really cool, then when you surface you can say "Did you see that?" and they respond "Yeah, wasn't that great"! If she really likes it, then maybe you can convince her to become a diver and share your passion instead of leaving her to read a book on the beach (even if she says she is okay with that, I think she will have a much more memorable experience of the trip if you two will share your experiences)!

Just my 2 cents as I have been married for 21 years and my wife is not a diver (due to heath reasons, she cannot dive). So if we are on vacation, we do things together like snorkeling or sit on the beach together. YMMV.
 
polkster13 once bubbled...
Regardless if it is oaky to solo dive in shallow water or not can be debated long and hard. If you do dive solo make sure you have a redundant seperate air supply and you know how to use it. Clear water can be very deceptive regarding depth and it is very easy to stray deep and not know it.

I have a solo certification but if I had a non-diving girlfriend, I would be wanting to share all of these adventures with her. When you are diving solo and see something really cool, who are you going to share it with? If you are snorkeling with her and you both see something really cool, then when you surface you can say "Did you see that?" and they respond "Yeah, wasn't that great"! If she really likes it, then maybe you can convince her to become a diver and share your passion instead of leaving her to read a book on the beach (even if she says she is okay with that, I think she will have a much more memorable experience of the trip if you two will share your experiences)!

Just my 2 cents as I have been married for 21 years and my wife is not a diver (due to heath reasons, she cannot dive). So if we are on vacation, we do things together like snorkeling or sit on the beach together. YMMV.

Or, if you did dive solo you could also use it as a conversation tool with the spouse. My wife and I don't have to do everything together to have a great conversation. You could say "Honey, I saw the biggest stingray, etc etc, etc..." Then should could tell ou about her day too. But maybe it doesn't work that way with everyone.

If you want to solo dive, then it's only up to you! Again, you know the risks involved. It's really know one's business but your very own.
 
CincyBengalsFan once bubbled...

If you want to solo dive, then it's only up to you! Again, you know the risks involved. It's really know one's business but your very own.

Which is why I'm so ****ing sick of people asking for permission.

You know the risks. You make the decision.
 
cornfed once bubbled...


Which is why I'm so ****ing sick of people asking for permission.

You know the risks. You make the decision.

Amen!
 
CincyBengalsFan once bubbled...


Or, if you did dive solo you could also use it as a conversation tool with the spouse. My wife and I don't have to do everything together to have a great conversation. You could say "Honey, I saw the biggest stingray, etc etc, etc..." Then should could tell ou about her day too. But maybe it doesn't work that way with everyone.

If you want to solo dive, then it's only up to you! Again, you know the risks involved. It's really know one's business but your very own.

On our local list we have a standing disagreement about this subject, and it usually gets pretty intense, and given everyone's strong feelings my sense is that little we say to each other on these boards will change anyone's mind.

But we've had a rash of solo fatalities locally which just prompted me to post the following on our local list. I'll repost it here for your thoughts:

Given the most recent fatality I went back over the archives from this board and the "other" board to review and try to understand how many diver's we've lost in recent years. I've reviewed all the threads and have tried to be fair in including in this list only those divers that were intentionally solo and/or had a buddy seperation [planned or otherwise]. We argue alot about the events at the time, and there is always a promise to revist the issue when more facts are known, but in reviewing the older threads it's clear we move on and never revist the issue. Accordingly here's a list, albiet perhaps not all-inclusive, as I'm aware of other solo fatalities but I don't have the benefit of BBS positngs to support the death.

May they rest in peace:

12/99 A Korean diver found near lobster traps

4/00 27 year old signal's his buddy team that he is ascending, he gets to the surface, waves for help but the DM get's there as he is sinking. His body was recovered a year later at 500'+.

6/00 Miguel Decuipulo found in the surf zone at Laguna Beach by a women jogging along the beach

8/00 John Olsen- Solo diving at Casino Point

8/00 Ron Fuller- found in 60' after solo diving on a homemade rebreather

9/00 Gail Garcia- diving with a buddy team but had some problem upon ascent.

9/00 US Air Force decorated veteran dies in 15' of water while solo diving in a mine in La Crescenta

10/00 24 year old solo bug hunting at La Jennel found tangled in kelp

1/01 Mia Tegner, a very expereinced Scripps researcher in stays to finish off a dive on the El Ray after husband ascends low on air

1/01 31 year old in Monastary beach started diving with a buddy, team got seperated and rescuers found the body a few hours later

1/01 German toursit in a 3 man team on the Yukon. One of the team members has an equipment problem so the other team member helps with the equipment, when they aren't looking she has a problem..

5/01 Tim diving a 300' deep air solo dive is witnessed ascending from 300' but body was never recovered

5/01 Ann Senter, 56 Santa Clarita woman diving in a buddy team but became seperated

6/01 David Shepard, 48 diving solo in Laguna Beach

8/01 Rod Thompson 33 in San Diego became seperated from his buddy

8/01 Michael Oskow, 57 retired LAPD detective became seperated from his son

9/01 Wayne became seperated from buddy during an OOA ascent. One dead the other embolized

9/01 Keith Cahon, 49 in Laguna Beach became seperated from his buddy..

1/02 Anthony Rossa, 39 told buddy he was low on air, buddy continued to dive victim was later found floating in the surf zone

6/02 Scott Shuger columnist who wrote articles about scuba was found floating at the surface by kayaker's passing by

10/03 Diver on the Spectre last week surfaced and waved for help but found unconscious when DM arrived on scene.

My condolences to all of the surviving families..

Regards
 
MHK once babbled...
< the usual useless babble snipped >

Aside from the macabe, this is a totaly useless post.

9 dead while solo diving ( maybe less as "solo" isn't included),
in truth 'only' 8, 1 ( the 300ft+ air dive) can be assigned to darwin.

11! were part of a buddy team!
seem's it proves it's not too safe to dive with a buddy!!!!
 

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