Michael Schlink:Mike you have me incorrectly labeled. My point was simply that I would ask politely, but if that didn't work I'd resort to other methods.
sorry I didn't really think you would resort to violence
Why should anyone have to smell cigarette smoke if they don't want to??
For the same reason I have to have my whole being assaulted by others car stereos or tolerate any number of behaviors that others have that make me uncomfortable. It's because we all have to share the same space sometimes.
The majority of people don't smoke why should a minority have there way?
Because the minority are charged the same and apparantly the boat didn't prohibit it but I really think an arrangement could have been made that would keep all happy. They had no interest in accomedating Don because they didn't view his wants as important enough.
I have been on numerous dive boats where people are smoking. I try to get as far away as I can, but short of swimming home your suggesting that it's my problem. You can't be serious.
If there's no practical way that smoking can be accomedated that the smoker should maybe be the one to yield.
Why are so many public places becoming "smoke free" because most people don't even want to smell it.
Lobby group dollars?
The fact that it's bad for you is one good reason, but there are many others.
Yes, it's hard to imagin a group in a bar engaging in a healthy activity like drinking being expected to risk their health breathing smoke.
My wife is literally sickened by the smell. My sinuses take a nose dive (no pun intended-er' maybe a little).
I sure don't want any one to be made sick. I do think every one should tryy a little to make room for the next guy though.
On a dive trip that's several good reasons for me going beyond hoping that the smoker is going to accomadate my request.
Don paid for passage believing he could smoke. Did the other pay understanding that he couldn't?
Very, Very few of our friends smoke. I think a Dive Professional shouldn't smoke in front of students. It's a bad habit and sets a bad example. It's unhealthy. Smoking accounts for a lot of health care dollars. It's become illegal for anyone under 18.
All true. Smoking is not healthy. Other unhealthy things include being fat, eating McDonalds and diving for the poorly skilled.
I realize that some people "enjoy smoking" but most are simply addicted to it. And because of that I have to put up with them stinking up the air that I need to breathe.
No! others should have the consideration for you to not make you breath their smoke
On a recreational outing??
It's supposed to be enjoyable for Don too right?
I'm willing to bet if the issue was pushed we could get smoking banned on boats for public charters, same as airports, rest., movie theaters,
I don't doubt it. Maybe it will set a precident that will allow me to get some of that horrible loud music outlawed. Maybe we can even make it illegal for some people to where skimpy swim suits. Noiw there would be a real public service.
Why would anyone think that a "smoker" has the greater right to smoke vs. the non-smoker.
That's just it, I don't think that at all. I just don't believe that there isn't a way to burn a little cig outside on a boat where it won't bother you unless what bothers you is the simple fact that Don is doing it.
I'll ask the question again "why do we wear deoderant?" It's simple we don't want to smell offensive to the people around us in public. Smokers have a hard time achieving this goal. I also said that if I go to a bar or club or similar place I expect to have to tolerate it-I just don't think I should have to tolerate it on a dive boat
How about if Don agrees to do without smoking in the bar if he can smoke on the boat? It's far more of a health hazard in a bar than outside on a boat I think.
No one's health should be endangered by some one else. Often though this issue just doesn't look like a health issue. It's more like a control issue.
These people wanted the back of the boat and to not see Don smoke. I think they may have been able to give him a spot on the stern if they were interested in compromising so that Don could be comfortable too. They didn't want to.