Short Hose Question...

[Windknot]

For those of you bungee-ing your second around your neck I have a question. What length hose are all of you using? Does the standard 22" fit just about everybody? I'm thinking that I might be better off with a couple more inches on my octo hose.

comments?

Does SIZE really matter?

 

[Norm]

I like one longer. A 30" works nicely for me.

 

[Rick Murchison]

The only reason to bungee your second (octopus) is that you intend to give your primary to another diver in an OOA situation. For the bungeed reg, the standard hose is fine (for me) when mounted on the left post of doubles, but I like a little shorter hose for an "H" valve. When using the bungeed second you need to be breathing a hose that you'll be comfortable giving away. If you intend to maintain close control of the OOA diver then a standard hose is fine - if you want the OOA diver to have a little maneuverability, or if you're diving in an overhead environment then you should breathe a seven foot hose as primary - and get the training to use the rig correctly.
Rick

 

[Lost Yooper]

A standard hose works for me too. If you use a long hose (5' or 7') on your primary in OW, keep in mind that it's primarily for better streamlining, comfort, and easier air sharing. Don't let go of someone just because you're using a long hose (unless in an OH environment). For open water OOA ascents, everything basically stays the same as you were taught in your first OW class -- grab a hold, donate, maintain eye contact, etc. The only real difference is in the streamlining and comfort of breathing the long hose.

Take care.

Mike

 

[Windknot]

I've settled on the 6' long hose for my primary (Atomic B1/T2) wrapped under right arm, across chest and arund my big fat neck.

My concern with staying with the stock hose on my bungee'd to my neck backup (atomic Z1) is that either the hose will have too much slack and put pressure on the reg/pushing away from my neck and straining my bungee, OR it will flop all over the place and get in the way over my right shoulder somehow.

My atomics came with 32" hoses (Measured from first stage insertion point to second stage insertion point. Extreme Exposure sells either 22" or 24" for backup regulator hose. I plan on ordering thier 6' for my primary and either 24 or 22" for the backup.

Maybe my original post was not clear?

 

[Uncle Pug]

Go with the 22" necklace hose....
You are right in you observations that the standard length hose will push the reg too far to the left as well as hang out there in the *breeze*...

 

[Windknot]

Your posts are both appreciated and timely. I'm placing my order as soon as I get up in the a.m.

Moochas Gracies Ass.....

Wind

 

[Uncle Pug]

Originally posted by Lost Yooper
Don't let go of someone just because you're using a long hose

Mike you need to take a fundamentals class!!!

I dive with one guy that used to try that while air sharing before he took the DIRF....

He couldn't figure out why I kept swatting him away!!!

The extra length of the 7' allows you to both get you buoyancy under control without throwing the other guy off...

That is as long as you're not doing the PADI grab & hold maneuver...

Shane and I separate and face one another horizontal in the water a couple of feet apart and do the slow ascent....

If he drifts in toward me I reach out and push him on the head...

 

[Lost Yooper]

That's great in practice, but not in a panick situation. If you're both in 100% control, then sure, let go and do your own thing. If the guy is out of air, scared and untrustworthy (as a result) in 250' underwater, I'm taking him up and not letting go of him until things settle down -- no way, no how!



Mike

 

[Uncle Pug]

Originally posted by Lost Yooper
If the guy is out of air, scared and untrustworthy (as a result) in 250' underwater, I'm taking him up and not letting go of him until things settle down -- no way, no how!

Man, you need remedial education worse than I thought!!!

Mike, if you are diving to 250' with guys who run outta AIR and are prone to getting scared and becoming untrustworthy....

Well.... well....

I think you should turn in your wings and get bungees to go along with the rest of your outfit....




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