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My comment goes to the unpredictability of Bull Sharks. Fending of the attack of a Bull Shark and bringing the carcass home would be, I suspect, considered by most to be sufficient experience with their unpredictability.
 
I'm not familiar with the website though I've now had a look at it. Is anything they say well-researched and objective, or is it all journalistic tittle-tattle?
 
thought this thread was closed.... anyway: local story...


Cageless shark diving has boosters, detractors - 03/03/2008 - MiamiHerald.com


-the thing is, bait changes behavior... stop baiting sharks, no problem... like whale watchers. just look and frequent were they often visit.

since I see mostly out of state opinions, I have little faith they are objective...

if you baited for bears or mountian lions in your neighborhood park, would you take your child there? not likely....

please don't bait sharks in my playground!






Denise Herzing used to love starting her mornings at sea with a dip in the reef-protected waters off Grand Bahama.

When she was out on dolphin-observation trips near Memory Rock -- off the island's West End -- the marine mammalogist would anchor in a spot that was usually safe from predatory sea animals.

But those swims ended a few years back when unexpected guests crashed the party. More than a half-dozen lemon sharks began circling her boat, conditioned by humans to associate people with food.

Herzing, a Florida Atlantic University professor and treasurer of the Wild Dolphin Project, blames shark-baiting, cageless divers like Jim Abernethy. He is the Riviera Beach business owner whose diving trip to the Bahamas ended with the death of an Austrian tourist on Feb. 27.

''Feeding the sharks changes their behavior,'' Herzing said. ``It's just like feeding bears at Yellowstone. It makes them associate humans with food. It makes them more aggressive. It endangers people.''

Herzing is one of several vocal critics of Abernethy's methods, but the diver, who has declined repeated interview requests, has throngs of dedicated supporters.

The two sides have been engaged in an intense back-and-forth on the Internet since Markus Groh, a 49-year-old Viennese attorney, died from a shark bite last Sunday morning.

The Miami-Dade County Medical Examiner's Office has concluded that loss of blood killed Groh and has ruled the death an accident.

Groh was on one of Abernethy's shark-diving trips to the Bahamas, which, unlike Florida, allows divers to chum waters to attract sharks. It is believed that a tiger shark lunged for food, but got Groh's leg instead.

The U.S. Coast Guard and Bahamian authorities, aided by Miami-Dade police, are conducting separate investigations into the incident.

NEGATIVE ATTENTION

Bahamian authorities, concerned by the negative attention the death has brought to their country, could revoke Abernethy's permit that allows him to do business in their country's waters.

There's a fear in the underwater photography community -- whose members have been among Abernethy's staunchest supporters -- that the Bahamas could ban cageless shark diving altogether, which Florida did in 2001.

The website sharksavers.org has begun a petition urging the Bahamas Diving Association ``to preserve current shark diving policies and resist overreaction to this horrible, but isolated, tragedy.''

As of late Friday afternoon, the petition had 298 signers.

Shark Savers, a nonprofit organization founded last year, is made up of divers ''who care deeply about the environment and the oceans and sharks in particular,'' according to its website.

The organization acknowledges the risks involved in cageless diving, but argues the practice has resulted in far fewer deaths than other extreme sports like rock-climbing and cliff-diving. In fact, Groh's death is considered to be the first shark-baiting fatality on record.

Rob Stewart filmed the documentary Shark Angels in the Bahamas in November on Abernethy's boat Shear Water, the same one Groh was on during his fatal adventure. Stewart has appeared on the Today show supporting Abernethy in the wake of last week's incident.

''Diving with sharks is one of the best ways to get new understanding of sharks,'' he said on TV. ``The reality behind sharks is they're not menacing predators of people; they're not out there to get human beings. This shark bite shows that the clear intention of the shark is not to eat them.''

When the dust settles, pro-cageless divers may have little to worry about.

Michael Braynen, the Bahamas' director of marine resources, said none of his government's agencies restrict any form of diving, and as of Friday afternoon, he hadn't heard of any effort to change that.

''Shark diving has been going on for a considerable period of time in the Bahamas,'' Braynen said. ``Some believe it started here.''

`UNFORTUNATE'

''It was an unfortunate accident, but it's not the first time someone has been attacked in the Bahamas or in Florida,'' he added.

Some fear it won't be the last.

George Burgess, a shark researcher for the Florida Museum of Natural History, compared the dumping of bloody chum into the open waters to tossing a sirloin steak to lions on the plains of Africa.

''If you're going to put food in the water and you get the animals excited,'' Burgess said, ``it's your own fault.''

Miami Herald staff writers Evan S. Benn and Alison Hollenbeck contributed to this report.
 
The big difference is JASA doesn't handfeed like the operation in the video. They just tease them with the smell and leave them hungry.
 
a local reply to the above newspaper story... very well stated (and agrees with my opinion, btw)


its my back yard... thats the problem... and its not in your back yard,
-or the opinions, (I believe) would be much different)



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'I have been diving all over the world for well more than 30 years. Many of my dive trips have been to specific locations where I hope to observe sharks in their natural environment - the ocean. I cite by way of example, Cocos Island, the Galapagos, Palau's Blue Corner, North Carolina's sand tiger sharks, etc., all of which I have traveled to several times each. However, none of these dive trips involved introducing an artificial stimulant into the water.

Rob Stewart and the others who defend Abernathy and his shark baiting are wrong in several areas. Stewart says - "Diving with sharks is one of the best ways to get new understanding of sharks. The reality behind sharks is they're not menacing predators of people; they're not out there to get human beings."

This is true. That is what many divers do when they visit places like Cocos Island, Wolf and Darwin Islands in the Galapagos and Blue Corner in Palau. The sharks in these waters do not attack and are not aggressive toward divers. Indeed, they are very shy and wary of humans underwater. The problem is when you introduce an artificial stimulant (bait and blood) into the mix. Sharks are smart but they have no way of knowing that all Abernathy is doing is trying to attract them, not feed them. They smell blood (literally) and do what sharks have done for millenniums - they bite what they think is food.

In my judgment, Denise Herzing is correct. The sharks in the Bahama waters are being conditioned like "Pavlov?s dog" to associate humans with food. In the waters where these artificial feedings take place the sharks have not only lost their fear of humans, they see humans as the proverbial "dinner bell".

What about the diver who wants to experience and observe sharks in their natural environment but does not want to, and has not signed up for, and does not agree to, accept the risks associated with diving with sharks who have been preconditioned and programmed to associate humans with food - bait and blood? What is that diver supposed to do? Not dive and relinquish his or her opportunities to experience nature "naturally" so that people like Abernathy can make money from doing what they do?

It is all well and good for so called "shark experts" to express concern about wanting society to better understand sharks and their environment. I fully agree with this. However, that is NOT what Abernathy and others like him are doing. They drive over from South Florida on their boats (like M/V Shearwater), throw a bunch of bait, chum and blood in the water, get the sharks to come in close to the "dinner bell" smell and then let divers jump in the water to look at and film artificially induced behavior. 4-5 days later they leave and motor back to South Florida. What do they leave behind? Sharks who have been programmed to associate humans with the "dinner bell".

After Abernathy is back in Florida a Bahamian tourist diver then goes out diving in these waters on a recreational dive. He or she encounters one or more of these previously "baited" sharks. The shark does not understand this diver has not signed up for "shark dives with Abernathy". He has not signed a waiver of liability. He just wants a pleasant recreational dive. The shark(s) expect bait, like they get from Abernathy. What happens when the shark approaches one of these recreational divers thinking "where's my food"?

If these so-called "shark researchers" want to observe the behavior of sharks in their natural environment then they should spend the time and effort to do so without artificially creating a dangerous situation that "programs" the shark to associate humans with food. These sharks and their "programmed memory" remain in the waters long after Abernathy and his kind have left the waters. This behavior MUST be stopped. It is not in the interest of the sharks; it is not in the interest of legitimate scientific research. It is sensationalism and commercialism at its worst.

I still dive and will continue to enjoy interacting with the underwater world. I just hope I don?t encounter a shark that has been conditioned by Abernathy to look at me as "dinner". In most areas of the world I do not have this concern. I do have it in the areas of the Bahamas where I know Abernathy has been "shark baiting". The sadness is that Abernathy does not do it in an effort to advance marine science or our understanding of shark behavior. He does it for one reason only - because people pay him a lot of money to take them to a place where he will chum for sharks for them to photograph. It?s all about greed.

It is a practice that MUST be banned.


Posted by: A Concerned Diver

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a local reply to the above newspaper story... very well stated (and agrees with my opinion, btw)

its my back yard... thats the problem... and its not in your back yard,
-or the opinions, (I believe) would be much different)

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I would bait in my backyard but I'm pretty sure there aren't any sharks in Lake Grapevine, TX. I hope the practice continues for a little while longer since I'm planning to go on a shark dive in 2 weeks!!!
 
Shark feeding dives are not for me but thats my choice. That being said the lawyers are going to make money and the BADO will ban some types of shark diving. Just my 2 cents
 
Sorry, but for me shark feeding has no place in recreational diving. Seeing a shark in it's natural environment is much more of a rush for me then seeing one all fired up looking for and expecting a free meal.
 
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