Shark attacks and buddy diving

[Packhorse]

What do you think the ratio to shark kills man vs man kills shark?

its 10 to 73,000,000 or so

 

[Nemrod]

This whole thread is like saying you would only play golf in a thunderstorm with a buddy, as if the lightening would somehow know. N

 

[Vayu]

This whole thread is like saying you would only play golf in a thunderstorm with a buddy, as if the lightening would somehow know

The fact of the matter is that the number of reported shark attacks on divers that were by themselves is largely disproportionate to the number of shark attacks on divers that were with buddies.

Overall, the number of attacks is very low.

There is alot of other info on the main file:

http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/sharks/ISAF/ISAF.htm

-V

 

[Cacia]

I think about 10% are fatal

 

[nadwidny]

The fact of the matter is that the number of reported shark attacks on divers that were by themselves is largely disproportionate to the number of shark attacks on divers that were with buddies.
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The fact of the matter is that the numbers are so low as to make them meaningless in being able to draw any valid conclusion based on the data presented in the study.

Crap science equals crap conclusions.

 

[Wildcard]

I'll bring the video camera............I need some of a Tiger.

And how can we top "It's moray" for a sound track?

 

[Wildcard]

The fact of the matter is that the numbers are so low as to make them meaningless in being able to draw any valid conclusion based on the data presented in the study.

Crap science equals crap conclusions.

Hey! It worked for the democrats....

 

[garyfotodiver]

The fact of the matter is that the numbers are so low as to make them meaningless in being able to draw any valid conclusion based on the data presented in the study.

Crap science equals crap conclusions.

Well said!

An opinion poll is just that; opinion. Statistics can be used to make anything mean anything.

 

[Vayu]

The fact of the matter is that the numbers are so low as to make them meaningless in being able to draw any valid conclusion based on the data presented in the study.

There is a good amount of data in the file. There are different sample sizes for the different variables they are examining. Some of the samples are small and others are large. If you are interested in the methods used I'm sure they will be happy to provide them at your request

Just because someone disagrees with the interpretation of the numbers does not mean that the study is simply a collection of opinions. It is more than an opinion in this case and the trend is clear. Your diving habits are your own and I will not judge them. Those of us that wish to see the data and take it for what its worth are happy that it is available.

You are right in saying much of the report could be improved with more data. Unfortunately more data means more shark attacks which are not entirely predictable and which we do not hope for. One striking thing about the study is that the increased amount of attacks simply reflects increased ocean use. Just like most divers are in the water at certain times and at certain places. This is why California, Florida, and Hawaii have the highest rate of shark attack even though other states and nations have just as many sharks.

On the other hand, there are more divers with buddies in the ocean than there are solo divers. Thus you would expect to see more shark attacks on divers with buddies. In this case sharks have selected solo divers as victims. There is not a huge population of solo divers or swimmers and yet most attacks occur on solo divers.

In addition to this it is a known behavioral trait of sharks to pick on animals that are alone. Sharks will often follow dolphins and pick out ones that lag behind or that seperate from the group. Often times sharks will demonstrate this same hunting pattern on seals. Everything out there on sharks indicates that they will choose the slowest, the weakest, or the one that is away from the group. The data in the file reflects the trends to date and also is in order with common sense based on what we know about the animals.

-V

 

[garyfotodiver]

Concerning shark attacks on (SCUBA) divers, give up some incidents.

It is not my primary interest, but I cannot remember reading about this type of incident. I am certain that, just as other shark attacks make the news, one on a diver would also.