Scubatoys BP/Wing package question

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I was looking on Scubatoys website and I found a package that included Mares regs (Proton ice extreme) Dive Rite harness plate and wing all for about $1000.00. Now that just seems too good to be true. Are the regs good? I know Mares has a good rep.

Also, if I am only going to use this rig for tropical diving, how should I set it up? I am 6' 3" 190 lbs. I just wear a rashguard and swim trunks. SS plate or alluminium? What lift wing? When I dove in Cozumel last Nov, it took alot of weight to sink me, but that was with an Oceanic jacket BCD that was VERY bulky (Which is why the BP/Wing set up looks attactive.

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Jaycat
 
First of all, Scubatoys is a wonderful company. I visited their store for the first time today in person. They've got a lot of great merchandise at some of the best prices around. FYI, they have a price-matching policy for in-stock items being sold by other Internet retailers, and they give a 10% discount to all Scubaboard members (on most orders, except for ones containing highly discounted items). Customer service, whether in the store or online, is excellent. Can't say enough good things about 'em.

Were you talking about this $875 Scubatoys package? Unfortunately, this package doesn't qualify for the additional 10% Scubaboard discount.

I don't have any personal experience with Mares regs. I know that Leadturn_SD here on Scubaboard owns, services, and likes them. The Proton Ice Extreme is an environmentally-sealed balanced diaphragm 1st stage, so it should be resistant to free-flow in even very cold water. I think the 2nd stages included in the reg package work fairly well -- both incorporate the VAD feature which obviates the need for an external breathing adjustment knob (to modulate cracking pressure). The 2nd stage case is made of metal, so cold water performance should be good. The only crappy thing about the reg is that one of the 4 LP ports on the 1st stage is of the larger 1/2" UNF size. I recommend installing a 1/2" UNF to 3/8" UNF port adapter (cost: $5-$10) which will allow you to use standard 3/8" UNF reg hoses on that port. Based on the location of the ports on the 1st stage, hose-routing for a single-tank setup should be fine.

In terms of getting the Mares reg serviced, Scubatoys would have you covered there. Bear in mind that you'll have to send the reg by mail to get it repaired or serviced. Getting the reg serviced locally by a competent reg tech means that minor tuning tweaks can be performed while you wait and UPS/FedEx needn't get involved.

The BP/W setup in this package should be perfectly adequate. That's essentially what I dive on warm water trips. Some people will take along a SS BP (5-6 lbs. negatively buoyant) on dive vacations. There's nothing wrong with that, but I prefer using an AL BP since it saves 4 lbs. in dry carry weight, which can make a difference if your BP will be transported in checked baggage. 30 lbs. of lift is more than enough for a diver wearing minimal exposure protection. Oxycheq wings are well made. The Dive Rite basic harness and tank cambands are fine. The XS Scuba pockets work great on the tank cambands.

People seem to like the brass-and-glass HOG SPGs. I wouldn't recommend getting the Miflex HP hose. Replace it with a regular, old rubber HP hose. I like a 26" hose, but you might prefer a different length. You might want to think about ordering a bolt-snap to help keep your SPG secured to the left hip D-ring.

Make sure that you do a proper weight check once you have your BP/W. Considering that many conventional jacket BCDs have +4 lbs. of inherent buoyancy (due to all the padding material) and an aluminum BP is typically 2 lbs. negatively buoyant, I wouldn't be surprised if you required 6 lbs. less lead, compared to when you were using a conventional jacket BCD. If you don't remember how to do a weight check, review your OW class materials. It's definitely in there.

The great thing about this gear package is that all of it could be used in cold water conditions of Northern California if you ever decide to start diving locally.
 
Also, if I am only going to use this rig for tropical diving,
Thanks
Jaycat
What you don't dive local? Our reefs here are full of life.

No matter what plate used, I prefer and use my stainless plate for warm water diving. The sacrifice is in the weight you are allowed to carry on. As to the wing the 30lb Mach V is a great all around wing for warm and cold water diving. For nothing but warm water diving an 18lb Mach V would work great, but it is not big enough for cold water diving.

I would also recommend the Basic Hogarthian harness. No need for foam fluff on the harness. Plus the high pressure 24" Miflex hose is known to have issues. You can research it for yourself, but a regular rubber hose is more reliable and easy to work with.
 
Don't worry about Scubatoys (I do a TON of business there, dropped two Atomic regs of there just yesterday to take advantage of their reg servicing special).......don't worry about Mares regs either, they're fine regs. Now, the whole harness/wing thing is a different matter....not that the gear you mentioned is crap or anything.....I've had Diverite wings before, and do a fair amount of business with Diveriteexpress in FL, have a DR HID can light....but as a new diver you may need a lot of help fitting/assembling/sizing the whole wing/harness combo, which may be more realistly done locally by a 'tech oriented' dive shop, it's kinda hard to 'fit' a harness/wing over the internet, and if you buy from Scubatoys and take it to a local dive shop for help setting it up, they may be less than thrilled to help.
 

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