Rubber hose coil memory

[PEDiver]

Another option to retain the long hose could be one of this

but maybe it will move around all the time

I would personally go the knife sheath route if you decide not to tuck into the waistband. I feel like this won't be secure at all and won't really solve your issue.

 

[PEDiver]

This is also a good read on long hose configuration and gives a good outline on hose lengths and routing. I found this very useful when I was getting started and it is DIR focused if you decide to take any training through a DIR agency/instructor in the future.

 

[steinbil]

yes it's routed that way, my confusion was when searching for the long hose in my chest, I keep touching the drysuit inflator hose and valve. This is my current configuration, the weight pockets are so small that it doesn't count as an option to secure the hose (actually I want to remove them, with steel tank I don't need any). I do carry a small knife in one of the drysuit leg pockets. Maybe I can put it on a sheath and thread through the waistband for that purpose?

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Like others have said:
- get rid of the 90-degree angles
- shorter the backup/necklace hose
- shorter the inflator hose + add 2 bungees (or cut bicycle inner tubes)to the corrugated hose to keep the inflator hose in place.
- keep drysuit inflator hose tucked under left arm and under the harness. It also looks like it might be long?

I would just tuck the excess hose in the waistband. You can re-tighten the waistband after descending to make sure the suit squeeze doesn't make it too loose to hold the tuck in place. Also when you pull it through the waistband, make sure to pull it to the side, towards your right hip (check out this thread for more). Or get one of those hose retainers, if you prefer.

I think it's mostly a matter of getting more comfortable with it. In time you'll get used to the equipment configuration by feel, so you won't mistake the hoses, and you'll know where everything is.

 

[inquis]

It is not uncommon to use a knife sheath on the belt to tuck the hose under, but I agree it's not optimal because ideally the diver should be able to reach their knife with their right hand as well as their left.

This will vary, of course, but I can easily deploy my knife from the right hip with my left hand. (I'm about 20 lb heavier than my 6'1" height would ideally support.)

 

[stiebs]

Another option to retain the long hose could be one of this
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but maybe it will move around all the time

Don't use one of those. It doesn't solve any problems that aren't already solved in a cleaner way (eg, with light canister, or proxy canister like @PEDiver posted), plus it creates problems that didn't exist before - if you need to deploy your long hose in a hurry, you now have to deal with unclipping it.

As most have already said, lose the 90 degree swivels, they may seem like a good idea, but actually make it more uncomfortable. The bungeed backup hose is too long, as is your inflator hose.

Ideal hose length for inflator and backup differs slightly within a couple of inches, with the difference being whether you are using twins or a single, and the configuration of your first stage.

Running twins, the inflator and backup hoses need to be a touch longer (compared to singles - but still shorter than what you currently have), as they have a little longer to reach. If you're running twins with a reg like an mk25 where there's an LP port at the end of the turret, the hose routing is a bit cleaner and you can do with a shorter hose. If you have MK17's or the like, I find the hoses need to be a another couple of inches longer.

If it's a single tank setup, don't be a afraid to try different orientations and/or port configurations of your first stage to get the primary port facing downwards and the backup coming out the side, while still leaving the inflators and SPG in a reasonable place.

 

[LanceRiley]

yes it's routed that way, my confusion was when searching for the long hose in my chest, I keep touching the drysuit inflator hose and valve. This is my current configuration, the weight pockets are so small that it doesn't count as an option to secure the hose (actually I want to remove them, with steel tank I don't need any). I do carry a small knife in one of the drysuit leg pockets. Maybe I can put it on a sheath and thread through the waistband for that purpose?

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put a small knife to the your left of the crotch strap. let the long hose go under that... hence it will rice passing through your left breast keeping your chest open... before looping over your neck. and remove the angle adapter.

to shorten the hose 3 options.... move the right hip stick backward... move the small knife to the left.... transfer where you attach the long hose to your 1st stage. i assume it s a turret type.. to shorten it do not install at the bottom.

to lengthen the hose... install long hose on 1st stage bottom.... long hose stick move more forward of the right hip.... small crotch knife move more to the right...

play with it

 

[NothingClever]

@Royan

First, to address what you asked for help with, extend your long hose in the sun and get it nicely warmed up. Use some soft weights to keep the hose extended. When it’s fully warmed up, manipulate the hose with your hands to straighten the bends. Hang the hose up in a warm location and let it hang naturally. You can leave the first and second stages attached but don’t let the hose kink. With use, the coils will straighten out.

Regarding all the other advice, we’re all well intentioned but I think we’re giving lots of advice without seeing you in your kit ready to dive.

Before you start replacing hoses, first try removing both angle adapters. Then if not too much of a bother, have a friend take front, left, right and rear photos of you in your drysuit with your regs hooked up to a twinset that you’re wearing. You can do this while seated. The photo from the rear should be taken from a slightly elevated position so that we can see your first stage regs and hoses. These photos will give us a more realistic idea of what adjustments to suggest.

I agree with @steinbil that tucking your long hose between your dry suit and your waistband (we can also say “under your waistband”) and shifting it to the right is a useful technique. You can use your thumb to pull down on the long hose to remove slack in your long hose in your neck area. Look left to ensure you leave enough slack. Your thought that the right weight pocket is inadequate for properly routing the long hose is accurate.

It looks like your left hip D-ring may be a little too far back but we can get that sorted once you take photos in all your kit ready to dive.

Dream trip for me is to fly down to Chile with a DPV and dive some of your large mountain lakes!

 

[lexvil]

Just hang your reg set wherever you store it and let the weight of the second stage straighten it out.