Roatan questions from a PM

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DavidH from a PM:
I hope you don't mind me PMing you. Me and the wife are wanting to plan a Dive trip and last year we went to Cayman and Bonaire. We were thinking about Bonaire or Cozumel but I would like to go somewere different and for some reason Cozumel doesn't sound that good to me even though I've never been there.
I read a few posts and seeing as your screen name is RoatanMan I figured you just may know a little about Roatan. We are planning on going May 26 thru June 2nd is this a decent time to go to Roatan? And what Resort would you recommend. I saw someone maybe even you recommended CoCo View. Anyhow I would appreciate ANY info you could give me. I really have not heard much about diving in Roatan, does it rate with Cayman and Bonaire? And what about food? It (CCV) looked pretty remote do you pretty much stay at the resort?

Oh man- so many questions. Let me repost this on the open forum! Look in the Bay Islands section.

So, you are inquiring as to AI Resort properties, first week of June, interested in how the diving is, and asking specifics about CoCoView. You've been to Bonaire and Cayman.

First- what a great thing that you want to expand your dive vistas. Bonaire is one of those "must do" islands, certainly well placed in my top 5 of the Caribbean. Cayman used to be, but it has slipped to the top 10 due to long term degradation. We are sadly wearing the planet out, from the reefs on up.

Roatan diving on the North and West side is similar to what you have seen in Cayman. You'll see many of the same larger more easily noticed and identified fish and crustaceans. The South side is what makes Roatan different- it rewards those with good buoyancy and patient, well developed observational skills. The S side is where you do your surface interval with Paul Humann's Reef ID books on hand! CCV and FIBR among a few others are on the South side.

That week should be perfection. It's before the rainy season and if you are refering to this year, 2007, it will be a full moon which is indicative of calm seas. Otherwise, it might rain and bluster all week, but I wouldn't bet on that outcome!

CoCoView is a resort for divers. If you want maximum bottom time and easy breezy access, that's the place. Food is good, plentiful and designed to get you back diving right away. Other places make a pretense that you are there for something else and wish to be entertained by lengthy meals and long surface intervals. At CCV, it is not uncommon to have people eating happily dressed in lycra dive skins. Gotta get back to diving. You will likely meet a lot of interesting people who will share experiences.

The real trick to the South side are the shallow reef structures that break in 2-3 feet and drop to the first sand shelf at 90'. There you will find a nursery of little creatures. The on premises dive shop sells small magnifying glasses. Oh- the wonders that you will see- even in two feet of water at the steps of your room!

You have to decide what you want out of the trip. Unfortunately (?), Roatan is not yet one of those islands where there is much else to do other than dive. Others will add in their non-dive ideas, the lists of restaurants and more- but understand- Roatan is no Cozumel or Bonaire in terms of restaurants, it is no Cayman in terms of shopping. Not even close. Roatan is on the tip of being developed. Come there to dive, do not be disappointed. If your SO wants to sunbathe, that they have. If you want golf, jet skiing, parasailing... well~ some stuff comes and goes, but there is one fancy franchised chicken place. It's called Bojangles. Get the idea?

At CCV, they have essentialy a juried art show that comes through every day as individual merchants arrive with some pretty spectacular stuff, some of it exclusively displayed at CCV. You can get SPA services and there is a wireless internet, an exercise room and whatever else... but it gets in the way of my diving. It is on its own private 10 acre island off the coast of Roatan. You will see no-one there other than employees and guests. Not a big security problem.

Bar none- there is no finer layout of any resort and dive locker, dive boat design that I have seen anywhere. I've seen a lot. The location of the place was pure synchronicity. Two walls within a short swim, the dive begins at your cabana, the intact 140' wreck.

There are other AI resorts on the Bay Islands, CCV is where nitrogen junkies go.

There are other less expensive ways to do the island as well, notably the ala carte possibilities of the West End, but you did inquire as to resorts, and one specifically.

There is no one way for everyone, but the best advice comes from those who have seen most all of it. There are quite a few people on SB who fall into this category, some that do not. Beware the poster who says, "Gee we just got back from Club Med and the diving was spectacular". You yourself must decide what you want out of your vacation, but as I said, Roatan has precious little to offer (yet) other than diving.

Get it while you can. Remember my comments about Cayman? We went there extensively in the 1970's and with good reason. It had the infrastructure and the great diving. With modernization, ships, and siltation run-off, they needed to create "Stingray City" just to keep the place alive. That one dive alone might be worth the trip, but other topside activities fill in for the degraded diving.

In Roatan- it's still there, but you better hurry. They just announced plans for a cruise ship mega port. Go now.
 
Roatanman, great report on the CCV and I hope you're joking about the cruise ship mega port. Please say you're kidding, please! This is what has ruined many dive sites. I know Roatan needs the economic benefits of tourism but I hate to see this coming there. At least the CCV doesn't solicet the cruise ship business at the moment.
 
Sorry to tell you but it is true...:shakehead

Carnival Corporation & plc has signed an agreement to build and operate a cruise terminal on the island of Roatan, Honduras. Development of the facility – to be called "Mahogany Bay – Roatan" – is expected to start in fall 2007 and be completed by summer 2009 at a cost of $50 million.

The cruise facility will be situated on 20 acres on the Roatan waterfront and will consist of a two-berth cruise terminal capable of accommodating super post-Panamax vessels and up to 7,000 passengers daily.

Partnering with Carnival on the project is Jerry Hynds, a local business leader and a member of the Honduran Congress. He is also the owner of Coral Cay, a resort property located adjacent to the planned port facility.

Within five years of operation, "Mahogany Bay – Roatan" is expected to host 225 cruise ship calls and 500,000 passengers annually.

Adjacent to the facility will be a 35,000-square-foot Welcome Center including retail shops, restaurants and bars, along with a 60-foot-high lighthouse, a lagoon with cascading waterfalls, and a nature trail.

A transportation hub with the ability to accommodate taxis, rental cars and tour buses is also planned. A variety of shore excursion opportunities, to be provided by local tour operators, are being developed, as well.

The island is currently featured on the western Caribbean itineraries of Carnival Corporation & plc brands Carnival Cruise Lines, Holland America, Princess Cruises, Costa Cruises, and P&O Cruises. The new "Mahogany Bay – Roatan" facility will further enhance guests’ shoreside experience on the popular island destination.

The new Roatan project continues Carnival Corporation & plc’s efforts at developing Caribbean ports to provide consumers with an even greater variety of destination choices within the region. These include the new Grand Turk Cruise Center, which in its first year in operation hosted nearly 300,000 passengers.
 
Just a quick reply to the Roatan thread. We went a few years ago. If you like cheap and funky you might like Roatan's weirdness. We had lots of fun on land with rental jeeps, Carib Indians, living in a tree house, walking past the mostly topless Italian resort, etc, etc,

The other place we just came back from and very much enjoyed was Saba. We stayed in an old 1883 cottage above town, it and the people were wonderful and very unique. By the second day everybody knows where your from and who you are. Very small very clean, and lots of fun. Diving tends toward open ocean with large swells but reefs are very pristene. We went with Mike at Saba Deep and he is, like all Saba's people, extremely friendly, helpful, and warm. Check it out

Good luck, jb
 
RoatanMan,
Thanks for the information, I guess I'm on my way. I called and they had 1 over the water room still available for the week I wanted 05-26 thru 06-02. I reserved it and just need to confirm airfare. I think the wife is even more excited than I am! Any other info or tips you could give would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
 
David......Lucky you got the same weeks as my favorite group it going to be there...."The Chain Gang'...Dee's group come on over here http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/mb/ccv for more of Doc's musings ramblings and antidotes;) and the rest of us "nuts" CoCoNuts that is.....I am going to miss it this year going to T&C....join us on cocochat:D we will leave the light on for you.... :)
 
I second the opinions on CCV, I was just there in Jan and the diving is quite impressive. Case in point, there were green and spotted morays by the beach! Although they are fed by the divemasters every morning ... go there before the cruise ships come.


Eddy.
 
David.....We'll see you there! We're celebrating my 10th trip to CCV by taking as many friends as we could during our 2 week stay. We've got about 40 people with us that first week. As Ann mentioned, mosey over to CoCoChat and start getting to know everyone. Also there's lots of great info specific to CCV that may answer any questions you may have.

Looking forward to meeting you!
 
If there's a full moon that week make sure you ask your DM about the 'string of pearls' and do at least one night dive if they are active. Where we stayed the lagoon featured spotted moray and an eagle ray in all of 4 feet of water, but I remind you of Roatanman's comment about a magnifying glass. There's a lot of cool stuff that is small and/or well camouflaged - take your time and see it.

The only time we left the resort was to hit a dive shop for an impromptu regulator repair. My resort, who carried a different brand than I use, had the DM drive me to a competitors dive shop to get the thing fixed under warranty.
 
How is Roatan for $$ expense?

Is their much beach diving in Roatan? Is it like Bonaire?

I usually cook my own food on trips due to a sensitive stomach? Are there easy to access markets for fresh fruits and vegetables?

Thanks
 

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